Corgana, corgana@startrek.website

More mods and admins on Fedi need to step up and take bolder action, imo. Whether intentional or not, a mods inaction will often set the tone for a given community more than their actions.

Imagine the community you mod meets in person and someone is being obnoxious and disruptive. A new attendee is not going to speak up, they’re going to look to you for guidance. If you allow unwelcoming behavior to persist, then attendees learn that being loud is how to get noticed, and if they don’t want to be loud (as many of us don’t) they’ll just stop going.

I haven’t loved the post-Burn setting but the way this show is already contextualizing it, and the optimism it’s doing it with is already starting to change my mind.

Same. A lot of that stuff just feels more comfortable with time and I appreciate how Star Trek always pushes it a little bit. People FREAKED OUT with the Klingon changes in TMP/TNG. Then FREAKED OUT that DS9 was on a space station with a “politically correct” captain. Now we think of those things as normal, nostalgic even.

I liked it too, but I find rebuilding to be aspirational. Like maybe the most aspirational thing possible.

Even to save the persons life (as was portrayed in the episode)?

Honestly this is the type of content I would prefer to hear a Trekkie’s perspective on.

Just seeing this post, I didn’t know this was a thing that could happen, but I wouldn’t mind seeing some Pre-S1 TOS. I don’t think Season 1 was ever canonically the first year of the five year mission.

You can throw darts at her photograph on your own wall.

Wait what? lol I like Burhnam. I was arguing with the guy who was making shit up to hate on her!

Was it the neighborhoods?

Do you have any evidence to support your claim? I looked it up and I didn’t see anything about “redemption” necessitating the fawning over of the redemptee by others, so until someone claims otherwise I’m going to believe Mr. Webster.

I’m so confused by this comment. Season three is literally (*literally*) about “a Federation that keeps adapting, improving, and ultimately continuing as a positive force moving forward through the dedicated collaboration of an infinitely-diverse collaboration of peoples” even in the face of overwhelming odds to the contrary.

Well said, Enterprise is my least favorite… until Season 4 which I consider to be some of my favorite Star Trek.

But same goes for Discovery! I appreciated what they were trying to do but it didn’t click with me. And then seasons 4 and 5 I consider to be some of Trek’s best.

Thank you for the sanity. I get so tired hearing Burhnam being held to such an obvious double standard. I wonder why? What is different about the character?

OMG you’re so right.

Honestly I’m so used to hearing the same tired old arguments I didn’t even process that.

You’re suggesting that redemption from disgrace is the same as “everyone else fawning over how great she is and what they’d do without her”?

It just feels awfully weird to me that your list of criteria that makes a show “hateable” only applies to this particular show. And when another show checks off the items, the list suddenly stops being “hateable items” and instead becomes a list of minor nitpicks.

I just can’t figure out what the difference is, what could it be about Discovery in particular that would cause you to hold this list of criteria with such gravitas, but when the listed items appear on a different show, you don’t seem to mind? What could the difference be?

Why is it when those things you listed show up on other Star Trek series you consider them to be “flaws” on an “overall quality” show, but on Discovery they become “reasons to hate”? Why the double standard?

You didn’t say Discovery villains didn’t “have nuance and development”. So no, I didn’t say that either.

I agree that Gul Dukat is a delusional maniac! The guy I replied to said that only Discovery had such characters. But that said I will gladly accept your Armus!