Europe must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby says

And they expect us to choose data centers? Fucked up. And our elites are corrupt enough to do just that …

Slop machines that make everything horrendously expensive or self-preservation? Hmmmm. I know which I would choose.

Give the planet over to a probability matrix which is based on the collective works of lifeforms (us) who require that planet to survive…

OR choose to keep surviving and creating your own works, on that planet.

If only all choices were this easy! Choosing between AI and climate goals is like choosing between a shit sandwich with a side of barbed wire spaghetti vs a gourmet meal.

They may have overplayed their hand.

Just for my synapses, currently fried under this heat dome, the question boils down to this: would I rather suffer a bit more for the sake of AI, or for the prospect that things might actually get better on this planet again? So, it’s a straight-up choice between selfishness and the collective good - and well, we know just how brilliantly those kinds of questions work out for our species :/

Well, alright 😃

Ok, but think about all the profits the ai companies are making, and all the tax revenue they will pay to fund healthcare, social security and public schools! /s

Both may be possible if the production of hardware, services and electricity can be performed ecologically meaningful.

I think the choice is obvious

Clear answer for me - everything else wins over pointless “AI”

Easiest choice of my life

Hmmmmm lower electric bills for our countries electorate OR giant buildings they hate that pollute their water, give them ill health from noise pollution, and take their jobs?

Damn I don’t know, let me ask chatgpt.

I mean, we must choose. Just not in favor of slopcenters burning through resources for highly dubious advantages.

I’d pay good money to rid the world of AI

Cool, fuck off then.

I mean that’s an easy choice, but also no fucking way. Rich pricks would pay for data centers even if they had to run them exclusively off renewables. This is a bluff.

What I find interesting is that a lot of these changes which are attributed to the purportedly “inevitable” changes associated with AI (or partly with its not-adoption), are real consequences of climate change.

• loss of employment? Check.
• profound change to living conditions? Check.
• loss of labour productivity - including knowledge work? Check.
• threathening the stability of the world-wide financial system? Check.
• increasing likelihood of war? Check.
• threathening even the continuity of human civilization? Check.
• threathening the capability to compete on national scales if the change is not reponded to swiftly by governments? Check.
• Correlated with obscene amounts of wealth concentration, impoverishing the huge majority of people, and disintegrating societies? Check.

It’s as if AI is used as a distraction. Like the "accusation in a mirror" pattern.

So no AI then, eh! Eh?

politico

ewww

Not true at all. AI can and should be running on renewables alone.

They just say it. 🫴

Lol easy choice

I want newer, cleaner, superior technology made with the help of AI to lessen, stop or even reverse Climate Change.

Also my Room is to damn hot! XD

No we don’t. I’m pretty sure we’ll be able to miss all the climate goals even if we ban data centres.

False dichotomy

And if it’s not AI it’s the next hype. We need to make a stand.

I’ve started playing around with ollama on my PC. The models I’ve tried so far are hardly comparable to Claude but also aren’t completely useless. If performance keeps improving, and hardware does as well, why rush it? We could accomplish similar results while spending a fractions of what others are spending.