Tesla pulls out all the stops as Cybertruck sales grind to a halt
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Tesla Cybertruck appears to be facing significant sales challenges. After initial hype faded, and over a million reservations turned out to be as real as unicorns, Tesla is now enabling leasing options and free upgrades to move its inventory of the futuristic pickup truck. The company's recent silence on the Cybertruck, even omitting it from their earnings call, speaks volumes about the situation.
Tesla initially projected sales of 500,000 Cybertrucks annually and established production capacity at the Giga Texas for 250,000 units per year. After working through the initial reservation backlog with fewer than 40,000 deliveries, the automaker is now struggling to sell the remaining vehicles.
Have they tried suing people who don't want to buy one?
In case you weren't referencing this, be amazed:
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sue-cybertruck-buyers-they-resell-in-first-year-2023-11?op=1
I was referencing how Elon is suing companies for not wanting to advertise on X. But this is amazing, too.
Hmm, it's kind of like he has an established MO for when his businesses are failing due to his own poor decisions and lack of business sense.
And now he has access to the government billing office and all our SS numbers. Don’t hold your breath for your tax refund this year.
Does that mean Canada and Mexico will be sued if the tariffs don't make them beg to be annexed?
Trump lifted the tariffs. At this point I think it was just a smoke screen so there would be less coverage of Elon taking over the Treasury.
Nononono.
It's that woke mind virus! Those infectious liberals have prevented true patriots from buying his shitty cars to proposely smash their fingers in the trunk.
Hmm, it's almost like he's an entitled billionaire not comfortable living in the real world with people who actually have free will! I don't care how many zeros, he's a loser.
Probably an effort to prevent scalping. Oh, how optimistic they were...
Oh no 😥
You joke, but I wouldn’t be shocked if *someone in particular* gets that brainwave before too long
So much of the promo for the Tim and Eric mandatory attendance world tour 2020 has come true it’s fucking insane, man
They should force the government use cybertrucks for employe transportation just like Elon did with X and NTSB
That might be the biggest harbinger of whether musk or Trump is running things. Trump has banned fed government from buying EV.
You mean These people
Whoa, there was a lot of fElon fellatio in the replies on that site.
Nazi truck.
Apparently Elon hates it when you call them swasticars, so definitely do not do that.
I'm not sure why, but every time I see one I think of a giant tick that has guzzled way too much blood and is about to explode.
*SwastiKKKar
I can understand why Nazis like it, given the truck's habit of trapping you inside as it engulfs you in flames.
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Every time a Tesla burns a devil gets it's horns.
Innocent people are being killed. Not really something to celebrate.
They bought a cybertruck. Are they *really* innocent?
Or they know someone who bought a cyber truck. Passengers who accepted a ride. Children or family members who have no control over what the buyer does. Be realistic
"People deserve to die for buying the wrong car. I am the good guy in this scenario."
Wankpanzer
Apartheidsemi
Fashcan?
The best thing they could do for their sales is get rid of all ties to Elon Musk.
They’ve gone a long way on flash and sex appeal but I think a little straightforward practical value would help them a lot. The market is awash in good competition now so their novelty effect is gone. And the sex appeal has ended for everyone except for 40k cyberdouches.
And get real professionals to design and build future models.
Also have anyone who understands basic car design point out why shit like door opening buttons are a terrible idea in emergencies. Or why requiring the doors to lock during a software update is stupid. Or why putting electronics not designed for extreme heat is terrible. Or that trying to use cameras in bad weather isn't any better than human eyes....
Now, the origin of all those terrible ideas will be running the government.
I'm sure people pointed out all of those things and were overruled by the Nazi manchild in charge.
It's all 5d chess technology that us plebs would never understand, what with our preference for simple, maintainable shit.
Just ordinary professionals will do nicely.
Or even better, get Olivier Boulet (of Mitsubishi infamy) to do their future designs so we can put the company out of its misery.
I definitely would've considered Tesla as my first EV but as of now they're dead to me. If he was completely gone then that actually becomes a selling point for me.
Instead they did the opposite and gave him the biggest bonus in world history.
While true this still won’t make the Cyberdrumpf meet EU regulations. You can’t make it street legal here.
As the article title states, unlike Elon Musk, Tesla pulls out.
I remember posting about how a guy with a cybertruck would be an immediate no go for me and I was told by a guy I was being too judgy lol
It’s a solid real world filter.
This is definitely more acceptable than “no social media” being a red flag. Got that one before lol
No social media is a green flag IMO.
You're literally using social media right now.
*Edit:* Downvote me all you want, but the fact of the matter is that Lemmy *is* social media. There's media on here, and we discuss it in a social setting. Literally the definition of "social media".
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I like the term that was applied to reddit, antisocial media.
This is more akin to forums of old and less like your facebooks, snaps, etc
Anonymous social media like this is not what people think of when someone says "social media".
Pseudonymous, not anonymous. It's a little difference, but one that can determine whether you land behind bars/dead/doxxed.
All social media can be anonymous if you want it to be ;)
Yes, if you're too young to remember what a forum is, i guess you can call it social media
Forums are social media
No not the same. Forums didn't revolve around media, they revolved around discussions.
And I'm 37, thankyouverymuch
Both can be true. I’m reducing my usage of the REALLY BAD social media and trying to make THIS social media better.
Well, ackshually ☝️🧐
I give the gift of a free bird to any I pass on the street.
Are you Lynyrd Skynyrd?
I did go to high school in Alabama, and know somebody from Muscle Shoals ...
Is no social media a red flag?
To a lot of people yes, but I think they're more worried there's nothing that proves you're a real person, if that makes sense.
I see it as a liability more than anything. Your data is forever.
I've heard it mentioned, but I assume the people who believe it are people who are on Meta all day
Not really, but since we live in a world where most people are happily sharing their lives online it's easy to imagine how not using social media might make people think you have something to hide and, therefore, can't be trusted.
Few it fewer people are actually using Facebook and similar to share their lives because it just feels really intrusive.
Mostly because how much advertising is now showed down your throats.
If they want to know more about me I can share my camera feed but it's like 98% cat photos.
Imagine a cyber truck bro listening to Joe Rogan in that thing. How does that not make every woman in sight instantly aroused?? /s
My panties are soaked! I'm also a pudgy middle-age dude.
You can buy incontinence sheets at the pharmacy, y'know?
If they're not branded by right-wing personality I'm not interested.
:(
This is valid just on taste alone. The thing was ugly even before Elon started his descent into madness.
Being honest, if I heard about a woman that has cybertruck red flags (assuming you're cis/het), that's genuinely more attractive to me.
Rich enough to own a cyber truck, but not bright enough not to own a cyber truck. Yeah it's what they "call look at me" energy.
Politics notwithstanding people like that are just tiring to be around.
This should surprise no one. The reception was poor, delivery was poor. It’s a niche market item in an existing niche market. On top of that, the de facto spokesperson of Tesla isn’t well liked by a lot of potential buyers.
It is jaw dropping that only 40,000 of their one million+ reservations actually turned into sales. Thats 4% conversion!
Also, trucks are not a niche market. And there is pretty minimal overlap between the kind of douche who wants one of these and people who object to Musk’s behavior. It’s designed for his cult, especially.
"niche market," is a way of saying they made a bad product few want.
pickup trucks are hardly a niche product especially in the us
I don't think I'd call that thing a pickup. I'm not gonna run to the farm and pick up a 1000lb bale of hay in that thing. A Baja looks like it has more bed space.
A bad pickup truck is still just a pickup truck.
Yep, what else could you call it? It's not a hatchback, a sedan, a convertible, a sports car, etc.
Trash.
An enormous mistake?
Swasticar
It's an Ute (as the Australians et al. call it), like the old El Camino etc.
Real pickups have body-on-frame construction with cabs and beds bolted onto the chassis separately, so that the bed can be removed and replaced with a specialized/custom one if necessary.
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The worst El Camino ever?
Hakencruiser
A kid's drawing of a car come to life.
Most pickup truck owners don't do that either.
Maybe in the US they don’t…
And more ground clearance
To be fair, it's valid to cater to niche markets.
However, that wasn't what Tesla was aiming to do.
cybertruck is barely even a truck at all. its a truck shaped car for rich assholes to look rugged.
Try and fail to look rugged. They just end up looking like the douche nozzles they are.
They're a comedy show on wheels. They always lighten my mood when I see them. I'm a little smug too, knowing if I had that much money to blow, it wouldn't be on one of those.
Which is a very niche market. I'm not part of that market.
It makes more sense if you start from the other side - EVs are a niche market, and an electric truck is a small subset of that.
The Cybertruck sold 38,965 units last year, vs 33,510 for the Ford F150 Lightning.
One of the things I love about my Lightning is that it doesn’t look like a fucking cybertruck
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Other truck makers tend to let their vehicles fully render.
I will hand it to Tesla, iterating on the Cybertruck design must have been really fast.
Gotta save some polygons.
The Lightning really is a nice looking truck.
The trapezoid Minecraft
CybertruckDeplorian— not so much…I'll be borrowing that one.
Hey, that is a very hurtful thing to say about Minecraft. Please don't compare it to that rolling dumpster fire
Deplorian... Made me snarf. My previous go to, overheard a while back, Incel Camino.
I'm not a Ford guy, but they do look pretty good.
They shipped 39k cybertrucks for backlogged preorders that were based on a completely different description of what the truck would be.
Well yeah, but to be fair, they were lying.
Which is mind boggling, as the Lightning seems like a good, attractive vehicle, while the cybertruck seems like a pile of shit
The Lightning has also been out for a few years now, so it's not the "new" thing. Also, I feel like half of those cYbErTrUcK purchases were people trying to resell them.
Hopefully these people get double-fucked.
Moreso because they bought a swasticar from President Musk, but also because fuckyou to people who buy stuff just to resell at a higher margin.
I have no need for a truck, and I still considered getting one. The Lightning is very impressive all around.
I'm assuming the electric f150 has greater than 1 wheel drive?
Which vehicles have that? The base cybertruck has two motors for AWD.
Regular F150s have single wheel drive.
It's just to make OP feel smart. A single driven axle with an open differential with one wheel on more slippery ground than the other would result in only one wheel transferring torque.
Actually most vehicles are only 1-wheel drive unless they have a locker or similar installed (4x4 would be "2-wheel drive").
I guess making a search online is the one thing slightly more difficult than making an assumption.
You gotta love these comments in forums. Like the whole point of being here is to discuss and people like this are literally telling you to leave the site. Very useful, much contributions.
Tanks camouflaged as pickup trucks are.
When did they start importing the Hilux?
And the cybertruck is hardly a pickup truck. What were you saying?
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Just wait till DOGE start requiring it for all government vehicles
"What?! You all *wanted* electric mail trucks, so here they are!"
(Sadly / Probably)
oh shit...
With all the trailer capacity available it will be able to carry one, maybe even TWO packages!
I'd like a GTA singleplayer cheat making every police car a cybertruck that can't pursue you for long and would rather lose control and do a barrel roll than even get close to you.
I mean off the bat that's one of the worse combinations of people/product I've ever seen. I mean off the bat electric car's target market is people that want to think they are doing something better for the environment.
So... then the guy making them goes loudly in the "fuck the environment" group.
To top it off though, Cybertruck itself always confuses me. I don't know who the target audience is. The original tesla's I could look at and think, that's a cool car, if they ever came down in price I'd be interested.
Cybertruck you look at and think... What a car would look like if you scaled up games from the 32/64 bit console era and made them HD without increasing the polygon count.
My problem with Tesla is that so many things seem half-unthinking, half-finished or half-assed:
Unthinking: I know! I'll put a ledge in from of the headlights, so snow can pile up while I'm driving!
Unfinished: all the seam mismatches and eternally unfinished-but-really-close! full self-driving (it ain't gonna happen).
Half-assed: that recall they had to do because sometimes the latch doesn't catch properly and the hood flies open when you're driving and blocks your view. Tesla's solution isn't to fix or replace the hood latch so this doesn't happen; they push a software up that monitors the hood latch and pops up a warning, telling you to pull over and check the hood latch. Because apparently fixing the issue that their poor design (see #1) and bad implementation (see #2) doesn't warrant an *actual* fix, they're just going to fob the risk , the cost and the work off to the customer.
I like the theory that Tesla had a long term roadmap before Elon scooped it up, and that he wasn't able to do too much to disrupt that in the early years because he was focused on LARPing as Tony Stark on the Internet, and the team that developed around him to insulate the company from him were reasonably good at their jobs. But even the best can only hold back so few bad ideas while keeping up the illusion, and the result has been gradually diminishing amount of ass.
Until that roadmap ran out, and/or Elon stopped being distracted, resulting in them designing and building the Elon.
Promised by next year since 2013
The target audience is monied tech bro millenials who really wanted a warthog out of Halo.
The problem is that the overlap between tech bros and nazi lovers is definitely not 100%, probably not even 10%.
Dont be so sure about that ratio. Plently of "got mine, im all bootstraps" tech bros. Id put the number at about 70/30% against nazis, but no better.
If they wanted a Warthog, they should have gotten a Jeep.
Or built one. There are at least three fully functioning Warthogs out there, I think. I've seen the one at Weta.
We're not all buying EVs for the environment. I bought an EV because I think the car is cool and it's really enjoyable to drive. It's nice that the "gas" is also significantly cheaper, but that wasn't high on my list of reasons to get the thing, either.
The EV owners I've talked to didn't buy them for the environment, either, but I haven't talked to any Leaf owners or anything. Maybe they're more environmentally conscious. It being better for the environment long term is definitely nice, and I hope progress continues on batteries made with less toxic components.
Thankfully, I did not buy a Tesla and they were never on my list of options because of Elon. So he definitely alienated a customer due to him being an awful human being. I also won't use any of their charging stations, since I don't want them to profit off of me.
You could say we bought our Teslas “for the environment” in a way, though a bit roundabout. When we bought them (2018), it was after having previously leasing a Leaf which had shit mileage and poor performance over 40mph. We wanted to signal to the industry with our dollars that we wanted the EV movement to succeed. Because apparently money is the only thing they listen to. We knew full well that EVs were only a step toward a greener future or whatever but we wanted the industry to take that step and understand that being environmentally friendlier was important.
Plus the initial sales were to people who had already committed to preorders at a lower price for a truck that was hyped up to be far better than the end result.
Cybertrucks are basically No Man's Sky but without the possibility of being good in a half decade.
Dag, yo. 🔥
"Isn't well liked" is quite the understatement. "Despised" is more like it. I actually like the way the cybertruck looks, I think the technology is interesting, and if I really wanted to, I could probably afford one.
I wouldn't drive one if it was given to me for free. I'd rather take a taxi every day than drive a public display of support for the treasonous fascist manchild that owns the company.
Tesla's second biggest problem is their shit standards and quality control. Their first biggest problem is their shit corporate leadership.
I swear that every time I saw one, the people around would point and laugh. 100k+ to drive a car that is always broken and mocked by everyone is quite expensive.
Hey! I heard you could get one of these fasc-mobiles for $75k, now!
/s
Let's not forget the quality. Also poor.
Plus it looks stupid, like what my drawings of a car looked like at 5 years old
Isn’t well liked…. Is a Nazi.
All they had to do was build a solid, reliable truck, and not be fascist. Instead they build a poorly glued together piece of shit and sieg heil. I fucking hate this timeline.
Don't hate the timeline, hate the news.
There are real people out there still trying to make the world work, getting stepped on, pushed over, marginalized, silenced. They need you. They need all of us.
Do not let The Bastards win.
(I'm still workshopping the "don't hate the player hate the game" - suggestions are welcome. Words can still inspire people, even before coffee)
Thanks, friend. Much needed words. Maybe I’ll put my decades of counter strike to good use at some point.
I hear it pairs well with Super Mario Bros
I suddenly realize why I was so good at bhopping without scripts. Haha I’d get banned for cheats and never cheated once.
I still refuse to see it as a truck. The defining feature of a truck is its bed, and the bed on this thing is presented as an afterthought. Covered, undersized, impossible to access from the sides. It’s just a tank. A penis prosthesis for the undersized.
I keep seeing people say this. However, hate is what created this timeline. I don't believe it's what will get us into a new one.
I mean no offense towards you; I want you to know this. I guess I just finally realized what it is that bothers me about that statement. In fact, I share your sentiment. Because not only are they poorly made, common sense safety measures are removed and replaced with poorly engineered crap that traps people, while other badly designed components catch fire and burn them to death.
First time I’ve used this phrase, myself. But I had such hope for the future and I guess I am finally admitting my hope is gone.
I do not blame you. I just happen to be the most stubborn idiot I know. *shrug*
Edit: I go back to my feed and see this:
Got a good chuckle at the bitter irony...
I think the answer is some kind of cynical optimism. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. You never know, they might all die tomorrow in a plane crash or something.
My cynical take on that stance is they probably overstaff the airpots they are flying through to ensure that doesn’t happen. But yea maybe they fall down an elevator shaft.
Somewhat ironically, they understaffed the airport they all fly through, and yet somehow it was innocent civilians that died.
I detest this timeline. I am disgusted, really. I've never quite understood hate, though; to me hate feels like making a solemn vow that subject of my hate will always have power over me. Because hate is irrational. It overpowers reason. But it is only through reason and logic I find myself.
The catch 22 is fear. Fear also deprives is of reason, but it also shames us, lessens us. Just as Yoda taught us, "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."
I don't wanna suffer anymore. But I don't want anyone else to suffer, either. Not even those responsible; I just want them gone from our timeline.
I was cyncically optimistic 8 years ago.
My optimism has been completely drained. I don't care anymore.
I don't even really hate or fear, I just kind of nothing and fake it on the outside.
🫂
That hate came from somewhere.
And SpaceX had such good publicity, also notably one aesthetically the very opposite of sieg heil.
I mean, aesthetics of Tesla advertising and design and everything were pretty different from SpaceX from the very beginning. I wonder how could Musk be the founder of both. Maybe they'll find traces of a brain worm in him too. Can't be solely ketamine.
he's not a Tesla founder, he only bought it
OK. Then I'd guess it's him sabotaging the idea of EV's.
He has never founded or invented anything. Every business he owns, he bought from others. In some cases he forced them to refrain from claiming to be founders at all. He's pathetic scum.
Apparently he did really found SpaceX. I'm not saying he did everything necessary on C-level to make it a functional company, but that's not really required (though if we think of such companies as Sun, there one can really see Bill Joy's deep participation in a lot of different core projects).
Does it though? I have had a real hard time giving a shit about space fir a while now goven Musk's musk is tainting it.
I mean it pretty clearly stated to look more like an escape plan than exploration around when Bezos had his penis rocket
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Who would have thought the preorders all dried up when they advertised it at $39,900 but launched it at $60,990.
Were people allowed to cancel orders due to that price hike?
Yep…
Exactly I thought this would be a purely functional truck at a good price, but for that much it is not worth it
Have they actually sold any for that little?
Well no…cause they advertised it as a base price so I kept like and like together. That 60K price is for the RWD model that isn’t even out yet. The AWD model starts at just shy of 80K.
Yeah I thought so.
Quite a few people would think $60k is a good price. It's not, but it's more palatable in the current car market.
$80k+ for it is only justifiable by shitheads.
If you want the whole picture…
They announcement price versus what they are at now.
Dual Motor AWD: $49,900 => $79,990
Tri-Motor AWD: $69,900 => $99,990
I’m betting high odds he will force the federal government to buy them under the guise of a green EV transition. With trump’s full blessing, of course.
Ugh. I can see this happening.
The shittiest way to transition the government to ev.
Maybe he'll force their sale to Ukraine, so Trump can pretend he supports them even while the cybertrucks break down in the field faster than Russia's WWII era tanks.
They'd get better use out of them by turning the batteries into anti personnel landmines.
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I don't like him because he is racist, transphobic, and attempting a Coup in My country.
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*gestures broadly*
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I don’t think any of this warrants deletion
The Nazi salute he did is an example of racism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk_gesture_controversy
His attacks on diversity is an example of racism
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2023/12/15/elon-musk-says-dei-must-die-and-criticizes-diversity-schemes-as-discrimination/
Anti-Semitic tweets
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/17/business/elon-musk-reveals-his-actual-truth/index.html
Transphobia, idk; I’m not right wing so that doesn’t matter to me
Coup
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/elon-musk-says-doge-will-now-shut-down-government-payments-he-doesnt-like/ar-AA1ylbNB
Nah, I hate him because when you look past his wealth, his "accomplishments", and his fandom, you are left with nothing but a piece of shit human being.
I don't need the Internet to tell me not to like Nazis. As a decent human being it's just natural.
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Nope. Not how that works. He did the salute. He went and showed his support for neo-nazis. If it quacks like a duck ...
I'm actually a Cascadian hippie if you'd like to assign labels. Hell, I will even let you call me antifa. But not supporting Nazis doesn't make me a Nazi.
I don't hate on people with different views. I live in a very conservative area. Most of the people I talk to on a day to day basis are still wearing their MAGA hats. I'm actually not a fan of the democratic party. But at the same time I'm not dumb enough to fall in line with the new fascist agenda. There's a huge difference between taking steps forward and burning down the system for personal profit.
Trump is an idiot with a personal agenda. Elon is a Nazi. And the people who don't see this are mostly poorly informed. I don't hate them for that.
But looking at your comments, it appears YOU are the one hating on everything different. Or you're just trolling, which would make you an idiot or a child, neither of which are worth having a discussion with.
Hi Elon. No, we hate you because you know you have Asperger's, think yourself smart, but are blind to the fact that you need people in your life to filter your thoughts and actions to cover your weak areas and flawed perceptions.
Only a fool thinks himself beyond improvement. Elon Musk is a great example of squandered potential and self delusion.
It depends on who you ask. In our fucked up culture where money > people, productivity > humanity, and dominating others > helping others, Musk is the ideal grand vision for what a person with “potential” will become. He has the highest score, therefore the best results.
It’s a fucking tragedy how many people admire both him and Trump for the most horrible reasons.
(In before somebody explains how this is capitalism’s fault. But I’m not going to disagree, lol)
Even by money standards he does stupid stupid things. How much money did he piss away on running Twitter into the ground and telling advertisers to go to hell. If he got the help he obviously needs he could have had it all. And his latest stupidity with the Nazi salute seems to be going down really well in Europe. Tesla sales evaporating in Europe. Just read that Cyber truck has completely flopped (shocking!)
I've hated him since the "that pedo guy" incident years ago.. I think that is when people started really waking up to the fact he's an incredibly insecure manchild. A bunch of poor kids trapped in a cave.. "how can I make this about ME?"
Yeah up until then I though he was a cool guy; real life iron man and whatnot. That baseless accusation was just so incredibly out of character it made me question his character, and then his later actions made me realize it was always just a character.
....you get dropped a lot as a baby or what?
nah, i also enjoy pointing and laughing when i see a cybertruck on the highway
edit (and at the people driving them)
So... how long before the federal government buys up a couple million of these things...?
Time for the US military to replace all their humvees?
Those things are rolling IEDs. I can't even begin to imagine how that would play out.
They just started rolling new postal trucks off the line so now seems like a good time to cancel that contract and sign a new one to replace them with Cyber trucks.
MMW Police and the Feds in US gonna be required to only have Cybertrucks in the (dystopian) future. Welcome to Night City 2077.
It's pretty funny because they kinda look like straight out of judge dredd. The shitty one.
Is this the one they let musk design? Feels like a Simpsons episode...
Personally, I'm holding out for the Tesla minivan.

Wow, it's beautiful and so futuristic! It's almost like living in the future today. I bet Tesla could sell twice as many as the Cybertrucks of those. Provided he makes it bulletproof of course. The great weakness and the reason for the disappointing sales of the Cybertruck is that the glass isn't bulletproof, I simply can't think of any other reason.
The Cyberbox! Imagine it! A box, with wheels! Don't need windshields because the cameras are superior.
Absolutely, I don't need windows, I use Linux! 😋
Imagining my new all electric commuting box with a high fidelity decal of Linus Trovalds giving the guy in the back a double fisted middle finger!
With speed lines and fire ball theme. The reverse sound alarm is the same thing they use in kei trucks...cute Japanese voice model saying excuse me I'm backing up! For lights, we would want fog lights along with a fog horn, we would want 300w for normal driving, 5000w for blinding incoming traffic and flash bulbs in case anyone wants to follow me too closely. A green laser for traffic cameras, and an LED screen so I can tell the guy behind me things I did with his mother. " We went shopping together yesterday... At Victoria's secret!"....and that's the design and how I would end a conversation regarding Tesla trucks.
At least that one had big cup holders.
I guess if Hitler was allowed to design a car, Musk didn't want to be left behind.
To be fair to Hitler, his cars weren't trash
They made Mexico city what it is. The beetle is legendary. And the program "hoy no circular" or "today you can't commute" was invented became too many people owned too many god dammed cars. So in the program they would allow you to use your car only in certain days. Additionally they modernized their metro system making it accessible for incredibly cheap. Not long ago for a few cents you could travel around the city a few stops. By comparison the trolley in sandiego is out dated as outdated can be and it only goes up and down the coast with only one rail heading east. Mexico city made a spider grid off they're system. Like from any peripheral location you can travel to the center or travel in the periphery towards another center bound rail. Its great. You can go anywhere without a god dammed car.
And he's the guy who killed Hitler, so there's that.
Can't say that about anyone else. Dudes an absolute monster but there's a couple Silver linings
That's it! We need to retire that joke or at least give it a 8 year rest 🤣
I can't help but think that there's a Broadway musical first act closing song somewhere in there...
Beetle was a copy of a Tatra anyway.
That one ruined Danny Devito. Maybe we'll be lucky enough this ruins Musk?
I wish journalist would stop calling this PS 1 Pontiac Aztek "futuristic"; it just highlights how shitty our future is going to be.
Ironically, the Aztek is way better, despite its age...
I mean it would fit well in Robocop or The Running man so I guess it counts
It would certainly fit this version of Robocop.
That's retro-futuristic, a very different thing.
I'm thinking more omikron the nomad soul lmao.
Both shitty visions of the future. Well the movie for Running Man took place 6-8 years ago, and the book takes place this year which could count as "future" since we're only in February.
So things are going to go downhill real fast, is what you're saying
I got some advice for them: Fire your CEO.
Fire the CEO, for him to sell all his stock, recall all the trucks and go over them with a fine tooth comb for quality issues, force them all through safety tests and fix anything that's unsafe, lower the price by 40%..., get rid of the tracking bullshit, You'll still have a uglyAF "truck" but it might just be sellable.
Fixing safety issues would have to include that sharp front end. Maybe just ditch the entire "stainless" exterior and restyling the whole thing would help with that.
Pretty much start with the battery pack and drivetrain, start over after that.
Look at the havoc that dude leaves in his wake. Prime choice for president.
Out of a canon, through some flaming rings, and into an empty bucket of water. If I have to watch a clown-show, at least make it entertaining.
Empty bucket of water? But we booked the shark - infested waters over a year ago!
Which would win? Clown or concrete wall? Let's find out!
I just had a talk with a friend of mine in southern Ontario who lives in a farming rural area. He likes cars and often does searches for used vehicles in his area. In a 200km area around Brantford, there are over 200 used Teslas on sale down there over the past month or two because people are dumping them because they don't like the brand.
The well moneyed sort who buy Teslas also like to change cars more often than the rest of us. Some of them are going to even more expensive brands like Rivian, and there’s a huge array of less expensive, more practical options.
Here’s how I personally see the brand transformation. I don’t believe these people are so principled that they are dumping these cars in protest. It’s more that the appeal that used to be there: of being part of the future, of moving off gas and embracing clean tech to help save the world… that little halo just isn’t part of the brand anymore. I see Teslas all the time where I live with license plates like “BYE CO2” and “LOL GAS.” But no one is going to hop on board that Tesla hype train any longer. They are no longer novel, they no longer virtue-signal and yes have actually become a bit icky. But I think we’re just seeing the end of the mirage, not really any kind affirmative lashback.
Have they tried making a decent truck?
Value is harder to deliver than hype.
The main reason I bought a truck was to tow heavy shit, and this piece of fuck trash Cyber truck can't even do that without the battery failing after less than 100 miles. Meanwhile an F150 can tow six times it's own weight thousands of miles.
I'm surprised you mentioned the battery (which is a problem with any EV towing), and not the fact the hitch can just snap off if you hit a pothole hard enough.
Wait what?!?!
The one person I know who owns a cyber truck was upset when I didn't call him when I had a truck needing emergency, my wife's car had broken down on a freeway offramp. The people that own these stupid things are cos playing as truck people even moreso than the average truck owner. The weirder part of his upsetness is, I was already driving a 3/4 ton truck because my commuter vehicle was not running. All I had to do was go get a uhaul trailer and go get her car. My mind is still boggled that he threw a fit about not calling him.
LOL. I have a truck for towing and other truck-related things and am quite happy to help others with aforementioned truck activities when asked. The amount of times I get upset when people *don't* call me to do truck things is like, hmmmm let's see....zero. It is zero times. A shrug is all I might manage to evoke from the drama.
It was the weirdest shit. He doesn't know anything about towing or hauling. His cybertruck is the first truck like vehicle he has ever owned and for some reason his ego tells him he's qualified to help. Its probably his total lack of experience that caused his upset.
To redeem him a bit he is incredibly willing to help people. He's just got more money than brains and experience lol.
Yah, I was about to mention ego being very much involved in all of this from the purchase of the "truck" to feeling spurned by not being asked to help. My ego would be hard-pressed to avoid educating him. Politely, of course.
Do you get upset when people move without calling you? 😄
Yes! Shouldn't your parents tell you before you come home from school???
Tbf it’s kinda a fundamental limitation of electric vehicles vs gas that the energy density of gas is way higher.
Well that would make you in the 10% of people actually using their truck
I bought a truck as a back up to my daily and weekend warrior, purely for towing and dirty jobs.
Always used my daily with a tow hitch for most things and honestly still pick it with a 6x8’ trailer on occasion over my truck often because it’s easier to maneuver…
A few of us exist
I was one of those that put down a deposit and happily waited for this truck to replace my 25 year old car. Then after he called the diver/rescuers pedophiles, I was instantly turned off. Now I actively push others to not buy a Tesla and refer to all Teslas as a Nazi mobile.
Get fucked Elon.
Wow, the Cybertruck was announced that long ago?
No, the cave thing happened in 2018, but the Cybertruck was announced late 2019.
Oh man, I got my timelines wrong. I think it was closer to a slow progression than instantly.
Honest questions: What attracted you to it? Do you like the design?
I honestly don't mind the design. Sure some people hate it, but I didn't care about others opinions on my car. That's why my current vehicle is 25 years old. At that time, I was looking for a larger EV and during that time large EVs were nonexistent.
What sold me was the functionality. The concept had bench front row seating so I could seat 6(which they removed in the final). It had a usable trunk unlike the EVs at the time. There was frunk which was only on Teslas at the time. Also Tesla at the time had the highest safety rating among all cars. A promising auto pilot (which is a lie).
It also claimed to have a bullet proof shell and glass. While Seattle is relatively safe, there have been many instances where people have been murdered for road rage or just existing at a red light
I will admit, when the first mentions of it came out, and it was going to be this cheap, capable, all-electric futuremachine, I was tempted to put down a deposit. At first I thought the design was functional, to keep manufacturing cheap and have a durable, Midwest-proof vehicle between the stainless and aluminum.
It turned out to be 100% the opposite of what I had imagined, so thankfully figured I’d wait. Decided keep my 10 year old car until it NEEDS replacement (which it does not).
Not OP, but regardless of it being ugly, it is novel and kind of goofy look, which has some appeal. Like buying a car designed by a child it’s sort of “fun”.
Otoh, I don’t have the cash to throw away on “fun”, and regardless, funding a nazi definitely ruins the fun, so even if I won the lottery, I’d have to find my fun elsewhere I suppose.
Also worth noting, ignoring all of that, the fact it was built so poorly and is clearly just flawed in ways that go well beyond the aesthetics also ruins it, even if musk wasn’t a nazi and the car wasn’t ridiculously expensive.
Well, at the time there were promises made that made the Cybertruck appealing. I actually would still buy it today if it wasn't a Nazi mobile.
Fucking why dude? Elon shit aside, you ostensibly knew what this thing looked like, right?
I honestly don't mind the design. Sure some people hate it, but I didn't care about others opinions on my car. That's why my current vehicle is 25 years old. At that time, I was looking for a larger EV and during that time large EVs were nonexistent.
What sold me was the functionality. The concept had bench front row seating so I could seat 6(which they removed in the final). It had a usable trunk unlike the EVs at the time. There was frunk which was only on Teslas at the time. Also Tesla at the time had the highest safety rating among all cars. A promising auto pilot (which is a lie).
It also claimed to have a bullet proof shell and glass. While Seattle is relatively safe, there have been many instances where people have been murdered for road rage or just existing at a red light
And it was the first electric truck for a little while, even though it ended up being delayed for so long and being an AWFUL truck and totally outclassed by both Ford and Rivian.
The thing is, for a truck that’s used for truck shit, functionality, practicality, and reliability are probably the most important. Styling will always be relevant to customers, but should be a secondary concern for a tough utilitarian vehicle.
It’s too bad they flipped those priorities and made an overpriced junky status symbol. I think Elon wanting people to see the “amazing” design was one of the main drivers behind it getting released when it did. It was clearly not ready 5 years ago since it’s still not ready now.
Ok dude...
I mean it's a "truck" without a truck bed, but sure.
Muskie boy, have you tried suing people to get them to buy the truck?
According to Musk, it's a crime to not buy the cybertruck
I wouldn't take a cybertruck if it was free, ignoring musk entirely it's just a bad vehicle.
The only place I'll drive a Cybertruck is in Fortnite because there I want my car to be unsafe.
You're being ridiculous, why would you seriously think that? That kind of internet opinion doesn't hold up in real life. I would absolutely take a free Cybertruck, I've long dreamed of making my own car bomb.
I know we're having fun here but I genuinely imagine it would be a complete fucking nightmare as soon as anything went wrong with it and I would absolutely not be willing to pay for repairs.
(Ignoring your last line joke)
No his opinion is absolutely correct. Its unsafe on just about every consumer aspect. It was cutting off fingers. It was rusting. In a crash its a nightmare. I also Wouldn't take one if it was free (unless im ok selling it without ever having to drive it)
Its a murderbox coffin on wheels.
There are a lot of testimonials from people who own the bastard things declaring that they're virtually unsellable, by the way.
Can you sell it for resources? There have to be some rare metals in them.
My boys specifically go after anyone in a Fortnite cyber truck.
This isn't the slam dunk you think it is, it's a battle royale game... Everyone is going after everyone.
I even purposely avoided the free Fortnite Cybertruck.
based
Is that "all stops", as in they will get rid of that guy who very definitely did a Nazi salute?
"pulling out all the stops" probably means removing the minorities and anti-fascists from the tesla payroll.
I don't even think he even commented on his Nazi salute after he did it. Which is even more damning.
Best they can do is promote him.
What do you get for a guy whose dick gets sucked by the president?
Seriously, why the fuck is he still CEO of that company? He's actively undermining them in every way on a global scale. Tesla shareholders are idiots...
This just in: *Tesla's new moniker "Arbeit Macht Frei" tracks poorly with most human beings.*
It is not a good pickup truck regardless of Musk being a fascist
It certainly doesn't look very useful. It looks like you asked a 5-year-old to draw a "cool truck."
It is, Elmo has the mind of a 5 year old.
I'm generally all for that idea. Everything is the same gravel color now, and oversized and shitty. They could have made something that looked different but was still useful. They just failed.
Pretty amazing how much you can milk fragile masculinity. Like actually astounding how badly these people need the vague idea of manliness to survive. It kinda makes me feel bad for them, that's learned behavior.
It looks like musk gave a verbal description of a truck to someone who never seen one before and they just went with it.
Even if you ignore the politics it's just a terrible car that is way too expensive. I'm honestly surprised it sold any units at all but I guess people just like vanity toys.
It's hard to find insurance for it, it's objectively terrible at its job, that's very few mechanics that can service it, It isn't available in Europe, it has terrible quality control issues, It is made by a company with terrible customer service, and it is made by Nazi
So many reasons not to buy it.
Made by under-paid awesome people that got themselves stuck working for an idiotic wannabe pseudo-Nazi.
Tesla fan here, this is kind of accurate. I wouldn't call it terrible, but the aluminum chassis means it has towing limitations, the small battery doesn't have nearly as much range as most other Tesla's and it gets worse if you're towing, plus not everybody wants to drive the Halo truck.
Double the range or cut the price by 30% and you have an interesting car, as it is now I look at it as a first generation attempt.
The car is objectively terrible. It's ha heavy duty car that can't do heavy duty things. The cybertruck has two things that it does well. It goes fast when you hit the accelerator and the sound system is really good. Everything else is extremely shitty, and a complete lie
It has a bold futuristic exterior design and looks.
It looks like something out of an 80s car video game.
Well yeah i guess. Taste is subjective
Driving a cyber truck is sure to get you some attention. That’s valuable to some people.
You've got some balls coming in here & proclaiming You're a fan of Nazi billshit.
I realize the American educational system has gone downhill, but surely at some point somebody taught you the concept of *nuance*? That not everything is black or white, good or evil? That sometimes things are shades of gray? Sometimes good people do bad things, bad people do good things, etc?
And that not everything is as it first appears at face value, you have to look deeper to understand?
I for one am very much a student of nuance.
I think we would both agree that of late, Elon has somewhat gone off the rails.
But that doesn't mean everything he has ever done or ever will do is automatically bad. I can dislike his current politics and the way he is approaching this efficiency project, without having to shit on everything he's ever done.
Thus, I remain a fan of SpaceX and Tesla, for the simple reason that they both lead their respective fields technology-wise. As someone who has owned a Tesla for years (going back to the days when everybody loved Elon), I can confidently say from personal first-hand experience that it is a fantastic car.
The fact that I now disagree with many of its founder's politics doesn't change the car in my driveway. It was a fantastic car when I bought it and it's an even more fantastic car now as FSD gets further refined.
I ask, for the good of our nation, please avoid black and white thinking. A population unable to grasp nuance and uninterested in looking deeper for motivations and questions below the surface is easily manipulated with range bait news. Republicans have been doing this for decades. Democrats have just started in the last 4 or 5 years.
I don't do nuance with Nazi shit, sorry.
Didn't bother reading past that nonsense. Glad you got some writing exercise in, though.
There are a lot of moneyed interests who want us all fighting each other. They want that so they can continue to extract the wealth of the nation for themselves. So while you explain why you've no need to listen to anybody, you are helping them.
Ever see a magic show? The magician sets up the trick and the cute bikini clad assistant jumps around and flashes her hands to capture your attention so you don't notice the magician has just palmed your card instead of shuffling it.
Elon is the assistant here. Everybody is focused on him and his stupid salute and all of the crazy things people like him say and do, and people are not focused on the real question of how to stop the fact that Americacs people are being bled dry.
I would encourage you to read the story of Daryl Davis, he is a black musician, most famous for becoming friends with a number of KKK members. Those people were used to being hated by black people and vice versa. All Daryl did was talk to them, listen to them, find elements of commonality. I think like 40 or 50 KKK members have left the organization because of him.
More balls than braincells
Hey, the Nazis have a slightly better UI than the competition, I really have no choice but to buy their stuff.
This is a genuine argument people are making to justify why they're still buying Nazi shit. Right now.
The Swasticar!
Uplifting news
Bit like Elon,
Never lived up to the hype
Good News: Now the nazi who owns the company can, via his role in the nazi government which he bought, can bail himself out.
🙃
(fuck this timeline)
Elon doesn't own Tesla.. Where did you get that from? He has 19% of their shares and is the CEO, nothing more.
I think the reason Cybertruck sales have ground to a halt has to do with their CEO Department's way of managing things and breaking into Governmental Agency's Private Information. It's also the reason you will find "FUCK ELON MUSK" being spray-painted onto Cybertrucks.
Tesla just needs a new slogan or a good marketing campaign.
Something like:
Tesla - power by joy
Or "Kraft durch Freude" in German.
All that would perfectly fit the brand image.
For reference.
Or make a special edition. The Kristall Nacht with a red and black wrap or something.