Intel finally notches a GPU win, confirms Arc B580 is selling out after stellar reviews

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The article someone posted yesterday said, you'd be better off with an AMD for the same price. At least for the 5 games they've tested under Linux with the current drivers.

Sure. Video encoding on the other hand, this likely has the lead as it's QSV with AV1 in hardware. AMD's video encoding is not great at all.

Nice. I'm also waiting for a cheap graphics card for doing AI at home. And the memory bus on the Intel card is wider than on the similarly priced AMD ones. But it'd need a bit more VRAM. And maybe I'll wait and see if it's just good in theory, or if the drivers or whatever limits the real-world performance, improve.

I look forward to seeing it show up on shelves 2 years from now, yay for living outside of NA/EU

Consider a third party shipping company, idk how it works exactly but at a place I used to work, they had a service called borderfree, you'll have to deal with customs costs, and prolly higher pricing, but I'm sure there is some kind of service out there that can accomplish this

Customs here is easily 50% of the value, it's never worth it. Just gotta wait

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What is the intel GPU driver scenario on Linux? What about game stability?

Ah another thing I should mention is shadows in Skyrim look horrible. So far it's the only game with this issue tho

They have a harder time with older games in general. DX11 (I think) is still new for Intel

That would make sense if I ran windows. It's all translated to vulkan tho and appears fine on my AMD and Nvidia card. It's definitely some driver bug.

I'm still hopeful it'll get fixed. I saw in a GitHub thread that the vulkan driver isn't complete yet

I mean they do have a point: the framework that the game is *targeting* is DX11, so if it looks bad it is (broadly) because of an issue in translating DX11 instructions to Vulkan...

The real issue is spotty compatibility with older games or even things that nobody would normally think about being problematic, like emulators.

So I'm guessing that it's worse than Nvidia but has the scope to become better because it's open-source.

They are far worse than AMD, which is a very low bar already.

I thought AMD’s drivers were much better than nvidia for Linux?

Yeah, sorry, I missed the context and meant outside of Linux and for gaming.

Big advantage being that it's plug-and-play via the kernel and Mesa packages, just like AMD.

I have had the A750 for a year+ now and play most games on Linux. mainly indy games and path of exile. PoE plays better under Linux than Windows, by far. I have not had driver issues at all (or that were noticeable to me) but it isn't like I have tested it extensively.

If you are into PoE then you may know about how unplayable blight, esp blight ravaged maps can be. Slide show or worse for me on Windows with both the A750 and with the older NVIDIA card I had before. Under Linux it plays quite well except with things hit hyper density of mobs situations and even then its still playable.

Intel has like half the valuation of AMD at this point. So expect it to be as good as AMD to half as good.

It's hard to beat Nvidia since they can hire more than 10x the people.

AMD has much better Linux drivers than Nvidia though, so that line of reasoning doesn't really work.

fair point when it comes to gaming. My only contact point with Linux + GPU drivers is at work, where everyone would laugh if you'd suggest buying AMD cards

https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-arc-b580-windows-linux

opengl perf is ok on linux, but vulkan is somehow much better on their windows drivers (for now)

I have an Intel arc A750 and so far it's been great. There are still some bugs with direct x12 games because the driver isn't complete. Specifically unreal engines nanite system games will just not launch. But there a already a fix for it so I'm just waiting for it to get merged

Level1 has looked at the B580 on Linux specifically:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv0o6505JAc

I think *most* of the issues with games not working should be the same between windows and Linux driver versions, and HardwareUnboxed has done some pretty exhaustive testing recently on the "maturity" of the drivers by testing a couple hundred games for obvious driver problems.

Now give me half that performance for $150, without enforcing that whatever it's called bar thing! (neither of these two things will happen)

All modern motherboards support ReBAR. Not sure why you'd be against it.

Probably because they want to use this card with an old board, which means an older CPU, which makes no sense with a card this powerful, since it'll drastically bottleneck GPU performance. It's a common mistake people are making though.

That's unreasonable mate.
Rebar is good and compute has always been cheaper if you stack more of it, to a point.

A compatible mono is dirt cheap anyway. Stop wasting electricity by running very legacy systems.