Catching up with relatives

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Catching up with relatives
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2 weeks ago, edited 2 weeks ago

“We want a whole race perpetually in pursuit of the rainbow’s end, never honest, nor kind, nor happy now, but always using as mere fuel wherewith to heap the alter of the future every real gift which is offered them in the Present.”

  • Screwtape, "The Screwtape Letters", C.S. Lewis

Screwtape (and fucking Putin and Elon) want to remind us all to talk over and past each-other, and really focus on what divides us, this Thanksgiving.

They hope we all do our best to ensure that each of our normal safety nets are as alienated as possible, in preparation for whatever bullshit they want to push on us next.

Let's all remember that our individual differences in opinion on how to solve their oppressive regimes are the best way to keep us from seeing that we're in a class war, not a political one.

Edit: And Screwtape sure as shit needs us not on speaking terms with the blue collar workforce who make up at least half of the union we will need to form, before this is all over.

Omg I loved that series - one of the more deep things I've read, at the time and possibly still since as well.

I particularly remember the gluttony example - it's not about an *amount* of food so much as caring *about* food, more than Remember The Human i.e. the wait staff who brings it to you.

He definitely helped shape my personality, in caring about people over "rightness of stuff" - like if the toast isn't perfect but good enough, now I'll still tip.

There are just some things worth paying attention to, and everything else should kinda fade away into the background as being irrelevant.

Life is politics tho.

Like a simple: "Ugh I'm struggling with being able to afford things" --> *everyone starts blaming various politicians and political parties*

I agree and I don't. Yea we could go that rabbit hole. Or I can relate with something that effects me financially. Because politics are *part* of life. I don't want to organize this shit. I just want to exist and hope good things for people.

"maybe stop spending on only fans John, and for fucks sake, stop crashing at mom's basement and get a fucking job "

Is a really good answer

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2 weeks ago

TFW you already have two jobs and still can't rent an apartment.

2 weeks ago

John stares at you until you remember he moved out a decade ago and manages an entire super size grocery store now.

Good for him, that's what we all wanted, hence the previous answer. It's a win win. He's out of here, with a job and we all can finally stop listening to his fapping all over the house. Not to mention the savings on stain cleanings

2 weeks ago

Username checks out.

2 weeks ago

talks about the state of the world, good and bad, and it's causes.

This guy:
"Politics! Not again!"

You say that untill your grandma starts talking about how much she wishes trans people should be deported

2 weeks ago

Yeah I hate when people talk about bigotry and hate.

“Grandma shut up you old hag bigot”

How dare you try to mobilise your community to solve problems! Thinking about the world's problems is for the rich and powerful. Us working class people want no part in it!

Trying to figure out if your uncle has a case of MAGA or early stage dementia. Could go either way.

Could be both!

Don't be such a downer. Who doesn't love finding out that their friends and family have become deranged?

And no one else will talk to them.

There are 2 types of people. Those who engage with politics and use it to bend the world to their will. And those who are ignorant of politics who get taken advantage of by those who are engaged.

Well no, there's clearly a third group who is compulsively obsessed with consuming and repeating political memes in a way that isn't actually giving them any power or agency.

We call that third group Lemmings.

Those who engage with politics and use it to bend the world to their will.

So... billionaires, and the rest of us?

and the rest of us?

Either make the waves, ride the waves, be part of the wave, or try to walk against the wave.

We all want to be the makers but the majority of us won't be. Try to ride the waves.

2 weeks ago

There are two types of people. Those who talk about politics. And those who don't want to talk to people who see everything in black and white.

There are two types of people. Those that can extrapolate from incomplete data

I love how you've set up a false dichotomy to complain about lack of nuance.

To say everything is in a grey area ignores the grey area of that statement itself where some things must be black and white.

Its like whats the exception to the rule that every rule has an exception.

2 weeks ago

And this does the same thing here on Lemmy...

2 weeks ago, edited 2 weeks ago

Everyone has 1 vote. The influence of that 1 vote on your life is probably smaller than that of an affectionate relationship with that relative. Imo political confrontations are better kept for the street/pub/doorstep. The unspoken agreement not to touch on the topic must come from both sides though.

yes but there is more to politics than voting

Right? How you vote is typically your outlook on life and people. It's a pretty important litmus test for most people.

I disagree, the consequences of how people see and interact with you based on that one vote isn't separate from any other consequences the vote has.

Thet should have sorted this out *before* the election.