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*Oliver's army is here to stay*
*Oliver's army are on their way*
*And I would rather be anywhere else*
*But here today*
I've got class war, which is a real doozy.
Yooo same.
Why the fuck don't these people just fuck off and relax? I can't imagine having that much money and still feeling like I have to go to work.
Because at some point after the first few million you turn into a dragon that must hoard wealth and the people that generate that wealth become a cost to minimize.
Barf, after my first few million they better be looking all over for me cause ima be peaced out to a 100 year vacation.
When I'm a BBW billionaire, I'm going to fund so much tasteless art. And by art I mean mostly pornography.
Old and busted: class war
New hotness: culture war
My sheet says "rome"
Uh oh
"So, what's Rome's history like?"
"It's all war."
Republic or Empire?
Western.
Not gonna lie my eyes glaze over a bit at the byzantium complexity
Hell yeah, I got the Dominion War. Time for another DS9 rewatch.
I'm the War on Christmas guy, and I'm getting my ass handed to me every single year.
i’m the war on advent guy. you don’t know how nice you have it
I'm the war on drugs guy and I... what was I talking about? Man, those brownies were strong! *strolls off*
I participated in the war on drugs...
On the winning side, I imagine.
By winning, you meantaking copious amounts of drugs?
Buying, selling, using, abusing, growing, extracting, synthesizing, losing, hiding, educating, discarding, withdrawing, etc.
I think so, it's all a haze.
All I got was Star Wars
The seven years war is fantastic and is utterly critical to understanding the US Revolution as well as understanding how the Iroquois pulled a power move on the other first nations that worked, but later led to the current situation with first nations in North America.
On the revolution: Namely that corruption was so endemic in the colonies that when the UK actually started to do something about it the revolution happened albeit with a lot of pushing from the upper crust of the colonies.
Fun couterfactual to consider: how many MPs would "the colonies" have needed to blunt popular support for the revolution?
Probably can't go very high, but maybe one per charter? If not that high (Scotland only had 45, I think), then what would have been enough "representation" to preclude the American elites from making a compelling case, or what paths to personal status would have tempted enough of them that there wouldn't have been a critical mass of will and resources?
The British colonized the Americas, particularly North America, very differently than Spain and France did, but didn't seem to think of the purpose or integration of colonies as any different.
The answer would probably be "none".
For example, the factors that led the average member of "sons of liberty" in New York *after the initial elite only membership* was worried about the elites owning massive tracks of land and driving up the cost of land for them.
The UK trying to section off an Indian reserve as a buffer state after the French and Indian War was 100% a cause of the Revolution. Also the UK trying to step in and say “no, you are not allowed to purchase all of Kentucky from one random person.”
Funny how that’s never talked about in K-12 history. Or even undergrad. It’s all about those nasty taxes (after spending how much on troops to kill Indians who kinda had every reason to be pissed off?)
Yes, it is more complex than that.
However, the UK could not have won the war when they did had those native groups not changed sides to ally with them. Given the dire state of the UK finances, its questionable how much longer they could have fought.
That land would also not have been needed had the elite of the colonies not taken ridiculous amounts of land for themselves.
TIL:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_decline_thesis
Due to a typo, I ended up with "The Cod War"
https://www.icelandreview.com/travel/the-cod-wars-in-iceland/
Pretty sure they made a video game series about that.
I got the Emu War
Don't let that obsession drag you down under.
For reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War
WWIII nut here.
Get yourself a Red Cross emergency kit, a lot of water jugs, and ramen. You're underestimating your chances of survival and how much you'll want to.
yes, you too can live out the remainder of your miserable days scrambling for rat meat in the irradiated future.
of course, the desire to live, to survive, overcomes a lot, but 'want to live' I think is stretching it a bit.
I suspect what they're getting at is: there are a lot of scenarios other than "all out exchange between major powers", and when the fallout starts floating, you can either just hang out at home (and die of cancer in a year or two), or shelter in a basement for a week (and emerge to a troubled but liveable world.)
give this a read sometime. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/748264/nuclear-war-by-annie-jacobsen/
I don't think anyone's going to hold up for a week then find the world very livable. even the areas not eradicated by direct strikes will suffer terribly from the food shortages and collapsing societies.
I'm familiar with the extinction event scenarios, and agree that in some cases one may not find the world worth living in. I recommend Krepinevich's "7 Deadly Scenarios", a couple of those involve nuclear attacks. The sitations are comparable to the recent Covid pandemic: millions of people die, the world is subsequently scarred, but life goes on for most people. A bit of planning can make things less horrible and a lot of it overlaps with natural disaster.
I think you may misunderstand.
Jacob's book covers an all in exchange. everyone goes max. very little in the northern hemisphere would survive. a bit of planning, all the planning in the world - neither will save you when each side is maximizing the amount of fallout with ground strikes with megaton weapons.
the 'lucky' folk in the southern hemisphere will just have to wait until the after effects catch up to them.
Jacob's scenario is megadeaths to gigadeaths - literally a billion dead directly (flash/blast/etc) and multiple billions dead shortly after. Krepinevich's scenario is a few terrorists with tactical weapons.
these are wildly different things.
I've worked briefly with civil defense stuff and got to visit and learn a whole bunch about bunkers. That cemented my "take out the long chair, open my best bottle, put on some shades, and enjoy the brief light show" approach to a hypothetical nuclear alert.
How long should the long chair be?
Mine just says WW15 and has a picture of a green tiger in space
Is there also a buff blonde dude with a sword in a fur loincloth?
I bet we’re all space tigers by then
The War of the Tiger Kings.
Goddammit. I guess I'll go get my mullet wig.
But *which* civil war...
Second Sudanese Civil War of course (1983-2005)
The one about slavery.I mean state rights.I mean Northern Aggression.The proper term now is War of the Demonic Democrats Against the Party of Lincoln and Trump
Oh, I though they meant Syria or Sudan or something.
Guns 'N' Roses
Civil waooaoaooor!
Huh. "Galactic Civil War" and "War of the Ring."
Neat. Wizards in both!
First or second?
I don't think he knows about the second galactic civil war, PIp
War of the Roses, winner of Best Named War ;)
I'm partial to the War of Jenkins' Ear myself
The Football War has entered the chat.
The Great Emu War would like a word.
i got the soviet-afghan war and wow did that recontextualize a lot of things about the modern world
Such as?
bear in mind i was 10 during 9/11 so a lot of it was just upending things i had taken for granted. but like, how the US was pretty much allied with the taliban throughout the 80s, giving them training and weapons to fight against the soviet-friendly progressive, secular government of afghanistan.
Charlie Wilson's War is a pretty great movie about that, starring Tom Hanks, directed by Mike Nichols and written by Aaron Sorkin, although it's more of a political satire and plays it fast and loose with the historical details.
The Soviet-friendly Afghan government wasn't a) progressive and b) wasn't secular. The government is explicitly Marxist-Leninist who oppressed and forced people to drop their religion as part of state atheism.
The progressivism and secularism you refer to was during the kingdom era before being overthrown by the communist Afghan military. The more liberal attitude is only contained in a bubble in the capital city of Kabul. The rest of 80% of Afghans are still religious conservatives living rural and in poverty. An Afghan female former politician lamented not seeing this because she grew up in liberal Kabul.
Also more importantly, it's a misconception that the US helped the Taliban. The mujahideen was composed of various factions, some are secular, some are conservative, while some are more Islamists. But, the ultraconservative elements only came later in more definite form under the Taliban, which defeated both the secular and conservative forces.
Sounds like
To me
Forcing someone to change their beliefs is considered progressivism and secularism? I did not get the memo that progressives are authoritarians. What were the Afghans resisting the Soviets for then?
The best class I took in college was an intercession course about the Vietnam War. We had to read an entire book pretty much every day, which was great prep for grad school.
I basically learned that the entire war was completely unjustified, it was horrific and brutal on both sides in ways that aren’t talked about, but that ultimately the United States had absolutely no business interfering. Vietnam had spent years under French colonial control, which they overthrew under their own power. They had already asserted a desire to rule themselves.
Tonkin was also a *genuine* false flag, which just isn’t acknowledged? We manufactured the cause for an extremely unpopular war. So many young man died or were disabled because of something that was pointless.
That class was first that really got me to question the patriotic narrative I was taught about American history in high school.
Of course we can't acknowledge it, because then we can't make the same "mistake" again and people will start questioning real causus belli like saddams WMDs which we'll find any day now.
Vietnam got a *rough* fucking deal in the 1900s. Shortly after the US left, the Cambodians under Pol Pot invaded, and they were brutal
China also invaded.
Twice, the buggers
And Vietnam ended up kicking Pol Pot off which is impossible to argue as anything but a win for humanity.
Yeah they deserve some sort of award for that.
I got the Cola Wars
As a traumatized veteran of the Cola Wars, I eventually decided to drop out entirely and become a tea drinker.
pfft. enlist when you're 18, you'll get a whole new war.
Don't you dare close your eyes.
prefer to close my eyes and count to fuck....
The galactic civil war....
Sweet! I got *Star Wars!*
But it's the Disney sequel trilogy.
Andor FTW!
WWI was objectively the most world changing and sets the stage for the entire modern era, if you squint WWII was just the Extended Edition of WWI all that being said WWIII was still my favorite.
« Ce n'est pas une paix, c'est un armistice de vingt ans » — Ferdinand Foch about the signing of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919.
Often translated as "This isn't a peace treaty, it's an armistice for twenty years." but some might prefer "This is no peace, it's a twenty-year ceasefire."
I'm glad I missed this.
btw, did you know that the Australian government killed almost 1000 Emus in the Great Emu War and still lost?
The military used over 10,000 rounds of ammunition. that would mean they used around 10 rounds per Emu.
Compared to the amount of bullets expended per casualty in any modern war that is actually very good.
The US probably fired thousands of bullets for each insurgent killed in Iraq or Afghanistan.
They also used actual military tactics to fight the Emus, like mapping their routes and setting up ambushes. In one of these, they managed to get close to a flock of about a thousand emus and attacked them with machine guns only allowing the escape of... lemme check... about a thousand emus.
I typically have a 60% accuracy in Helldivers 2 and I'm fighting swarms of giant bugs. I think I'll forgive the Australians for 10 rounds per bird, especially since winging an emu probably doesn't stop it.
I listened to Hardcore History's series on World War I in that window, so that was my assigned war of interest.
This was me too. I probably listened through the "Blueprint for Armageddon" series three times. Never really found any other history podcast that piqued my interest nearly as much as that did.
I like that he’s very open about the fact that he’s not an expert/professional historian. He walks the line between storytelling and rigor pretty well for a pop historian. My favorite episode is the one about the Memnonite (edit: Anabaptist) rebellion that ended with corpses being left up for centuries.
Mine just says WW3, should I be concerned?
So much to learn, we don't even know how it ends yet
Yo professor, which Falkland Islands you talking about?
https://youtu.be/42_oWaWsiYs
Are you talking 'bout the Malvinas falkland islands?
There are 64 books in the Horus Heresy.
the century of war between Berwick-upon-tweed and Russia
My favourite war was the War on Everything
"WTF is Granada?"
Some one needs to play some crusader kings or EU4
I fought in the Cola Wars as a member of Dr Pepper's insurgency
It's probably just too broad to treat as one war, but I always return to reading the fall of the Roman Republic and the rise of the Empire. So many poetic, cinematic moments that for western civilisation defined our subsequent history. Where are we if Crassus doesn't desperately need a triumph but gets fed molten gold instead? If Marc Anthony and Cleopatra rule the Mediterranean from Alexandria? If a comet doesn't convince half of Rome that Caesar is a literal God?
!roughromanmemes@lemmy.world
I'm in the same boat but during the Sumerian reign. Fall of civilization did an excellent video on it "8. The Sumerians - Fall of the First Cities".
The seven year war, which is what the rest of the world calls the French Indian war should actually have been called World War One.
It was also started by an incompetent 22 year old George Washington being sent out in his first command who ignored the equivalent of the sergeant put in charge of the new lieutenant advice and executed a French person he shouldn't have.
The taxes that started the revolutionary war? Those were to pay the war debts on the seven year war. Dude literally led an army to avoid paying the consequences of his actions.
EDIT: it's also possible to draw "ALL WARS"
In the Pays d'en Haut Anglo settlers were moving in, French forts were rapidly expanding and militarizing, and both colonial powers were jockeying for Indigenous allies and exclusive trade partners. And in Acadia the oaths issue was still unresolved and considerable swaths of the country that France 'ceded' to Britain was under the control of the French-allied Wabenaki.
Another war was inevitable, Washington just lit the powderkeg.
You know, I don't think there's a single war I Care about more than any other...
Now technological era, on the other hand.... I'm a sucker for anything from Europe/Mediterranean coast from the 1200s-1500s.
And who doesn't love exploring early human history from Gobekli Tepe to Ur.
Fascinating stuff.
I got the 30 years war. I'm not disappointed
It’s a fascinating war
Napoleonic wars for this guy.
I just watched The Cynical Historian's review of the recent Napoleon flick. It was great. The review I mean, not the movie. It tried to tell Napoleon's whole story, which is just not feasible in the span of a single film.
I had no idea there were 7 coalition wars, that's crazy.
I missed the memo. I am just generally anti war and don't like reading about them. War is all because of dickhead leaders that can't act decent, treat others right, or talk things out without being little insecure manbabies. And when manchildren in power have their big boi pp insulted they make the less powerful fight for them instead of doing anything respectful. Some rebellions which lead to wars are justified. Gotta stick it back to the empowered manchildren sometimes. But it all comes down to a shitty leader.
I decided to focus on wars of leftest and/or peasant uprisings. Often heart breaking, but man if you've ever enjoyed cheering for the underdog, they are definitely that. Plus, you're automatically learning about the Class War at the same time :D
May I recommend Summer of Blood: The Peasants' Revolt of 1381 by Dan Jones?
This looks fucking amazing, thank you for the recommendation!
It can be very valuable and interesting to study the surrounding context of a war. Military history with battles and kill counts and discussions of tactics is something I find boring af, but there are *endless* discussions to be had about how the causes of the American Civil War can be traced back to before even the Revolution and tracing the repercussions of the war all the way up through to current politics.
Think about how the Taiping Rebellion, which killed more than 20 million people, would have affected day to day life in 19th century China - which weakened China and rendered it more vulnerable to European powers. Think the Opium Wars. Think about how Hong Kong was just returned to China in 1999 - and all of the complexities that entailed.
Or how the World Wars depopulated Russia. You had a generation dead or traumatized. Russian alcoholism is usually treated as a joke - trauma can have intergenerational changes in genetic expression.
Wars also make excellent chronological signposts. I’ garbage at dates, but usually wars segment significant social/economic/cultural/blah/blah/blah changes that they help me keep events organized in my head.
I think you missed the joke, it's not making a point about all wars being bad it's about middle aged dudes being obsessed with wars
I understood the joke just fine. I started my comment off with "I missed the memo" implying I never took any interest in wars or never got assigned a war to obsess over.
Hey, the Falklands is the one I'm obsessed with and it's actually really interesting. Only "modern" war between near peers before ukraine.
Iran Iraq war also known as first gulf war?
Wut
The Iraqi army got absolutely obliterated
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
That’s not the US led UN backed war following Iraq‘s invasion of Kuwait. Iran and Iraq had a long and brutal war with tanks, planes, helicopters, mines, trenches, and more in the 1980s.
I'm sure you've come across it but David Hart Dyke's book on the loss of HMS *Coventry* is one of the more vivid depictions of grief I've read.
Near peers? Pretty sure there's a whole ocean separating Argentina and Britain, even if the islands where the conflict occurred were "just next door" to mainland Argentina.
I think they meant "near" as in "evenly matched".
That's not what the near in near peer means...
It's a measure of military capability between nations. A Near Peer would be a nation that shares similar capabilities for force projection or in otherwords the powerscale is 1:1.
I got the second Punic war, but I think that's just a freebie. I also spent a lot learning about the Falkland's war just to annoy Argentinians online.
The machine give me the Horus Heresy. I can confirm it was right.
I can't be the only Ersalrope Wars buff here, right?
and who really can go more than a few hours without thinking about the Koinonian Wars?
I got Brood.
My case was Paraguay War a few weeks ago and I learned so damn much that school completely glossed over. What surprised me the most was just how much of a madman Solano Lopez, the Paraguayan dictator, was. You dare bring bad news to him? You bet your ass you'll be flogged. You failed to follow one of his suicidal orders? Off to forced labor camp. You didn't put him above God and Christ? Say your prayers, you'll be
shotbayoneted in order to save bullets.-- George Templeton Strong.
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make it 80!
100 if they can
100 years war
How about no. No wars.
Being fans of mass graves and killing machines is weird.
Ah... remember when England decided they owned an island that was located inside the territorial waters of another country?
You will have to be *a lot* more specific when talking about the British Empire...
I hope you're not trying to refer to the one that's 200 miles from Argentina because that would be hilarious.
c/foundtheargentinian
Are you dumb?
Phenominally so.