Illegal Streams Let Criminals In

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Illegal Streams Let Criminals In

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They could steal your personal data without you knowing.

Hah! Like the "legal" services are much better than that!

Hey now, the legal services tell you they're stealing your data. It's in section 9, subsection 14, paragraph 423 of the terms of service.

It's 507 paragraphs long and written in a mix of German and Esperanto but yeah, it's right there! Clear as day!

Shoutout to Sony BMG putting rootkits in legally bought CDs.

Source: Wikipedia

You would be safer pirating.

You should use legal streams that you pay for so you *know* they're stealing your personal data!

does this mean if I pay for streaming my privacy will be respected

Huh, I didn't think emojis would be italicized. Interesting.

  • Normal: 🤔
  • Italicized: *🤔*
  • Bold: 🤔
  • Strikethrough: 🤔

They don’t show up italicised for me (iOS)

Devs, we need bold emojis stat. Fennec people, get on it !

OK this hilarious. Guess who owns this domain. It is Sky UK

Sky are a bunch of bastards.

They were bought by Comcast a number of years ago, so they're actually worse than before if you can believe it.

Wonder how much of your personal data they have? 😆

Or how many times they've been hacked, or broke the law.

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Well of course it errors out, you're using powershell rather than DOS

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Access is denied.

It's actually C:/> just to fuck your shit up.

Remember kids: Torrents and Jellyfin are the only way.

I heartedly recommend Usenet. Bit more involved setting up than torrents but if you're looking for fast and quality content then this is the way.

I'll definitely try usenet when I have the money to pay for it, niche content without jumping through private tracker hoops sounds awesome. Though I also love torrents, so it could go either way in the end.

They could *steal your personal data* without you knowing.

So very ironic when it's the opposite between them.

so i went to their website. For a site thats immediate branding is about how scary and dangerous hackers are, you'd think their news section would be full of fraud and ransomware stories. instead, their "latest news" is solely articles about people being arrested for using pirate streaming services or selling loaded firesticks.

The *single* exception to this is a "social experiment" they allegedly did where they put a QR code up at the tube marked as "free streaming for life" and had people put pii in to sign up. This entire "initative" is solely another way to harvest user data lmao.

people being arrested for using pirate streaming services

What circumstances does that even happen in? Like a bar that plays a pirated sports stream?

Gonna be honest I didn't read the articles so I'm not entirely sure. I did see a headline about cops going to peoples houses to issue warnings so maybe isps are snitching?

I'd be skeptical that's even real, outside of a select few countries with especially strict copyright enforcement

Not even in the US, which it seems leads the charge on enforcing copyright most of the time.

It's the "your internet could be disabled" scare tactics.

Theres firestick apps that stream all the regular channels, plus all the premium channels. (HBO, showtime, stars, ppv, etc) Essentially for $10 - $20 a month you get the best, most decked out cable package one could buy. You may or may not have access to all the new and old movies, TV shows (from all the platforms), and porn, on demand, as well. Maybe like that?

That doesn't sound like something you get arrested for though

their “latest news” is solely articles about people being arrested for using pirate streaming services or selling loaded firesticks.

So just to be clear, the damage then is not from the actual piracy or due to any invasion from the source of the piracy, but rather 100% of the danger comes from the enforcement of piracy's prohibition.

Yes, definitely sounds like *piracy* is the problem here 🙄

Don't do illegal drugs, kids! You could get in trouble, because they're illegal.

Yup! The fact that it is defined as "illegal" allows goons to storm your house and court troll to harrass you.

Thus everything they say is true, in some way...

And it's not even illegal in the sense most people think of, it's a *copyright violation*. Which is a regulatory thing, not a criminal law thing.

Given the cops can show up and harrass you in the UK it might be an actual criminal offence at this point over there.

social experiment" they allegedly did where they put a QR code up at the tube marked as "free streaming for life" and had people put pii in to sign up

It's insane that this is even legal.

I feel like it isn't? Like isn't that just false advertising?

I stream torrents using stremio.

Oh clever, didn't realize you could do that

Yeah it's pretty nice, basically every convenience of paid streaming services for free and every movie and TV show in one place.

If you use it I highly recommend the torrentio add on https://torrentio.strem.fun/configure

Lmao they even have the pre-1800 British flag on their site.

They could steal your personal data without you knowing

lol

compared to legal sites stealing your personal data after telling you (it's buried among the 100+ pages TOS you agreed to)

Hey, don't point it out! People are blissfully ignorant of how much they are owned. Don't try to educate them.

  • corporations, probably.

The C: prompt let's you know they mean business

Last time I tried to stream a hockey game legally it just wouldn't ever load. I went back to the pirate stream.

You probably had to be using a Smart™ TV so they could steal your personal data.

Legal Streams

Let Disney Kill your Family

C:> They could try to use term and agreement to get away with murder.

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incredibly disappointed that's not a pirate streaming site

Pretty much everything does, even your car will and I would totally download a car if I could.

Does that mean i can finally download some blinker fluid?

Not needed if downloaded car is a EV

Technically the legal stream tell you.

More crime is committed in the making of media than in pirating it.

Also more wrongdoing against society and the public that the justice department couldn't be bothered with (so doesn't count as crime).

Pirate it all or don't watch it.

Pirate it all or don't watch it.

Been living by this for decades since I learned from my highschool computer science teacher that it was even possible. I'm 50 now and I have paid only twice for tv and movies in my adult life.

The website is run by Skynews, wich is not directly disclosed on the website, the privacy options button doesn't work, it doesn't have a cookie banner but does set a cookie (illegal in EU), it has a injection for Facebook, Instagram and YouTube, by doing all that, they are less compliant to GDPR than my fucking piracy site...

All in all it looks like a intern made a WordPress website, designwise ok, but regarding legality, functionality and content its at best for printing it on toilet paper.

This actually happened to me once. I illegally streamed a show and then this Italian guy Vinnie the Foot blasts through my screen. Nice guy. Asked for a towel, I made him an espresso, we watched movies and smoked cigars til sunrise.

Fuckin Vinnie. He stole my dad's toupée my dad is still pissed about that.

Your dad looked ridiculous Vinnie did him a favor

You're right, Vinnie has impeccable fashion sense. Hurts to hear the truth though.

How is Vinnie these days? I haven't seen him since grade school, back when he used to have chest hair dandruff.

They buried Vinnie on a hill, overlooking a little river, with pine cones all around.

Just as he always wanted.

Legal stuff isn't much better these days. Advertisements unless you pau more, user tracking regardless, etc.

Massive data collection and then getting hacked with no legal ramifications.

And even if there are legal ramifications. The fines are low enough that its a cost of doing business for the most part. Especially in comparison to the amount of money they make spying. Possibly on top of whatever else they sell depending on the business in question.

Most insidious part about the whole thing is the fact that most legal stuff is "licensed" rather than owned. A convenient legal fiction to allow them to revoke access at any time and (likely) keep your money.

I went to their website just to have a laugh. This is some real shizo propaganda.

You could replace all of it with: Only watch self sourced pirated media! Paying and relying on any service has inherent risks

“1 in 3 (32%) people who illegally stream in the UK say they, or someone they know, have been a victim of fraud, scams, or identity theft as a result.”

320/1000 people know someone unlucky enough to fall for a scam.

This risk increases significantly when users exchange credit or debit card information to view content on unregulated and illicit websites.

If you pay for your pirated content you are doing it wrong.

Watching content via an illicit source can expose younger viewers to age-inappropriate content. These unauthorised websites, devices, apps, add-ons, and the content they can access have no parental controls.

My kids get a tablet exclusively pointing to a private media server in order to obtain the parental controls for-profit services just don’t provide. I banned YouTube kids, it was a shitfest.

320/1000 people know someone stupid enough to fall for a scam.

Correction: 320/1000 people know someone unlucky enough to fall for a scam. Plenty of very smart people fall for scams. All it takes is some lucky timing on the part of the scammer, where enough happens to be correct that they miss/overlook whatever tells might be present until it's too late

This risk increases significantly when users exchange credit or debit card information to view content on unregulated and illicit websites.

I mean, providing payment information to legitimate services is always a risk. There's so freaking many breaches that you simply have to assume your card will see fraudulent charges sooner or later and watch your statements for the unexpected activity so you can stop and reverse the charges before you miss the deadline

I agree i should have used different words, scam-ableism is counter productive to educate about traps.

I am pretty sure my dad fell for one of these because an ad popt up trying to pay a digital parking meter.

Though he wasn’t trying to get access to illegal content what people behind this campaign are alluding towards.

Scams come in so many shapes and forms, there is accidental click and there is “looked like an official Netflix page”. How many people will knowingly pay for something they know is available for free?

the way we share payment info to sites is so backwards is the reason despite all the problems paypal had, it still provide a lot of value.

PayPal is nice since it gives virtually zero trust to the seller to secure customer info. But as you alluded to, PayPal has lots of problems mostly stemming from it trying to get all of the benefits of being a bank while accepting none of the responsibility of being a bank, and therefore customers receive none of the benefits of a bank while still getting all of the drawbacks of another entity handling their money

If you pay for your pirated content you are doing it wrong

I don't think I am, it's Usenet and a VPN, and costs less than my Spotify Family account.

But this is paying for a service that's used to obtain content, not directly for the content

And you can pay with crypto, not providing any personal information at all

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They are actually less prone to big data theft... "they could steal your personal data without you know"...while the "legal" streaming sites are stealing orders of Magnitude more wich is pretty clear by the amount of data they transmit, a website has usually no access to your contact info, your entire hard drive, the contact info of everyone in your contacts, your microphone or your camera.

And being hacked left and right

Yea and when you legally stream the mouse can legally kill you

Clarification: The Mouse as in Disney Corporation not as in the thing you use to move your pointer.

Oh, if Disney Corp could use the mouse pointer or the one on your desk, or even a living breathing mouse, or whatever else mouse or not rest assured - if killing you somehow benefits them they'll do it. They might do it from sheer incompetence too and they'll try to write it off as business as usual. Also, it applies to anyone you know for good measure.

If it wasn't across a train line it'll make more sense if someone plaster over the "il" in "illegal"

"1 in 10 people believe they are not at risk when using illicit sources to watch TV, film or sports."

ONE in ten? Man, they're even bad at cherry picking statistics 😂

They even cite a study with only 1,000 participants for their statistic that "32% OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF FRAUD"

In the title, at least. The body of that claim's card says that it's the people, or someone they know that have been victims of fraud.

Gosh, I hate dishonest scare marketing campaigns.

as opposed to the legal services where youre forced to hand it over along with paying exorbitant prices for a tiny catalogue

Legal streams let something worse than criminals in. Lawful criminals.

I have one of these on a billboard near my house. Every time I feel sad, I just look up to it as I'm passing by and it gives me a chuckle. I think they actually updated it recently. These posters are in the UK for anyone wondering. And this one in particular is in the London Underground.

I despise vandalism, but sometimes I feel an exception can be made

*You wouldn't download a torrent*

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I would download a zipbomb and e-mail it to them.

I downloaded 2 seasons of 1 tv show and 3 seasons of another in the last month, but I used direct download.

So, no. I wouldn't.

*remembers the repacks from 3 weeks ago*

Nevermind.

The only thing I'm at risk of is receiving a warning from my ISP :(

I'll get a VPN one day I promise

they could steal your personal data without you knowing

Is that supposed to be more intimidating than corporations stealing my personal data with or without me knowing?

Who are they stealing my personal data from, corporation?? Are they stealing it from me or from you??

*Has a VPN and an ad-blocker* I'm good homie, but fuck they know about this now.... That explains where the fuck kimcartoon went

Thought this was a Republican ad for a second. Similar language and appeal to fear and ignorance.

Yes, and those have the good stuff

The streams are coming from inside the house.

My firewall is blocking that web server. Meaning they're probably using it to host trackers...

That's not really how that works.

If you wanted to "host a tracker" you wouldn't do it from the same IP address you're hosting Web pages on.

it's either on the blacklist because it's hosting a domain for 3rd party cookies or hosting advertisements.
You've got to remember that from the perspective of these corpos, they're not actually doing anything nefarious, and they can host multiple vhosts from the same IP.
Now, I haven't looked into it it's being blocked by an IP blacklist at the firewall, or a DNS advertisement blacklist.

But in short, I disagree. It is how that works.

If you're "hosting a tracker" you want an IP you can change as often as you like.

If you're hosting a website you want an IP that never changes.

IPv6 is free and IPv4 is very cheap.

Even in the extraordinarily unlikely circumstance they really are hosting both on the same infrastructure, they aren't going to use the same IP.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that you're right. The IP has never been used for anything nefarious, and it's not being actively blacklisted.
Oh my word! It suddenly started working! You fixed it :) thank you.