I didn't know HOW bad Google search has gotten.
submitted 2 weeks ago by PhilipTheBucket
For some reason I was back in Chrome today, and I searched Google, without meaning to, for:
get channel id for a youtube channel
Here's what I got:
✨ AI Overview
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To find a YouTube channel's ID, you can:
Use the YouTube account settings
Sign in to YouTube, select your profile picture, then Settings, and then Advanced settings. You must be signed in as the channel's primary owner to see this information.
That's great, but I am not the channel's primary owner, and surely the majority of the time the person seeking an answer to this question will not be, also.
Use the channel's URL
Click on the channel's name under any of its videos, and then look at the URL of that page. The handle will appear at the end of the link, preceded by the @ sign.
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That is not the channel ID.
Use the page source code
View the page source code of any video from the channel, and look for the "channelid" keyword.
I felt a little stingy at this point, because this sounds like a real solution.
I opened the source for the channel page, and searched the source code for channelid
, and found nothing.
Then, while typing this complaint, I noticed that I was supposed to do that from a random video's page, so I opened one of the videos, did that, and found nothing.
A YouTube channel can have multiple URLs that direct viewers to the channel homepage. These URLs can look different, but they all point to the same channel.
Irrelevant information. How do I find the channel ID?
Generative AI is experimental. 👍 👎
Thanks Google! I know.
Sign in to YouTube. Settings . From the left menu, select Advanced settings. You'll see your channel's user and channel IDs.
Find your YouTube user & channel IDs - Google Help
Yes! I know. However, this isn't my channel. I want to find someone else's channel's ID.
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I have some doubts whether you would accept my feedback, if I decided to give it. Why is this here?
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(Got it)
Thanks! That's really useful to know. Do you know how I can get a channel ID though?
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Fascinating!
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I clicked on Stack Overflow, closed several popups. The top answer wasn't useful. I did find a couple of answers down:
"To obtain the channel id you can view the source code of the channel page and find either data-channel-external-id="UCjXfkj5iapKHJrhYfAF9ZGg" or "externalId":"UCjXfkj5iapKHJrhYfAF9ZGg".
UCjXfkj5iapKHJrhYfAF9ZGg will be the channel ID you are looking for.
I tried that, and it didn't work.
Back to Google:
Comment Picker
https://commentpicker.com › Tools › YouTube
YouTube Channel ID Finder is a free tool to help you find a YouTube channel ID, along with other related channel information and statistics.
And it worked! I get 2 free channel ID queries per day. Fortunately I only needed the one. But it worked! It only took several minutes of scrolling past multiple screens of things that didn't work.
Now let's compare that to DDG.
Videos for get channel id for a youtube channel
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How to Find YouTube Channel ID - 2024
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I skipped this as I didn't want a video.
https://www.streamweasels.com › tools › youtube-channel-id-and-user-id-convertor
YouTube Channel ID Finder - YouTube Username to ID Convertor
Simply enter any YouTube username or handle below and click Convert Username to ID. This tools makes use of the YouTube API to make the conversion. You can check out our other API tools here. Select YouTube handle, username or legacy: YouTube handles are now considered the default for Y
And there we go! It works.
When did it get this bad?
Not sure if this will help for that specific search but I recently discovered a change that you can make to your browser's search defaults that makes Google search a lot better (for me at least), stripping away all the AI stuff.
Details in this thread: https://lemmy.world/post/19104187
TLDR: Add &udm=14 to the Google search URL.
Yep, and thanks, I should have done that myself. Although setting that up as the default search takes a little more detail.
The AI overview thing is completely full of shit 99% of the time, too.
It's given me fake URLs, made up information about Google's own services/support methods, fabricated tutorials for video games, and other insane shit.
Like when I asked if Tsushima was a real place, it just gave a paragraph about the *game* (Ghost of Tsushima) and said that the game featured *real, modern restraunts* from Japan such as Narisawa and fast food places like McDonald's. The game takes place in or close to the feudal period.
Does anyone know how to turn off the AI overview?
Yes. Stop using Google services.
Why is that the answer? Because Google WANTS you to use it, and it is not illegal to force you once you're searching with them.
Use this...https://udm14.org/
Except in this case, the AI overview gave them exactly the correct information. They're just trying to do something that circumvents Youtube's TOS and they're wondering why the owner of Youtube isn't including that information in search results.
Where in the TOS does it limit access to a channel's unique identifier ID? You need that shit for external tools to work.
Why would finding the id of a YouTube channel be against the tos? It's used in many api calls to pull info about a channel. An API that is provided by YouTube....
It got bad several years ago, which is when I permanently jumped ship to DDG. It's nowhere near as good as Google used to be, but on the other hand, it's also nowhere near as bad as Google is now.
It especially sucks I still sometimes have to go back to google purely because living in a smal country a lot of stuff yimply cannot be found on ddg.
I've been paying for kagi. It's shit but I'm giving them a fiver a month in the hope it gets better
I've been trying the trial/100 searches a month. Using very sparingly, but I like how it pulls up actual sites instead of ads disguised as websites. Idk if I'd pay $5 or $10USD to use it though. Bit steep.
Millionshort is another one, haven't used them in a while. The results were meh but nice that you can filter out major websites.
I find DuckDuckGo works on Broad General topics, but when you're trying to get specific it is just completely inadequate. I'll search for something in the results are nowhere close to what I'm looking for. I've been trying to find something better.
I don't know how much of it is specifically Google making their search engine worse vs the web being flooded with AI generated SEO trash that's intended to keep you on the page for a few minutes when all you need is a simple one word or one sentence answer.
It's definitely some mix of both though because I found getting concrete answers a lot simpler a decade or two ago just by using quotes around key phrases in conjunction with what seemed to be actual operator keywords like "OR". I personally don't think any of that behaves the same way these days, but I have no concrete proof of this so maybe I'm just imagining things.
Either way, I'm slowly coming to terms with the web portion of the internet being a lost cause as AI, bots, and bad actors infiltrate and abuse more and more of it.
About the same time google started personalising search results.
Then ads in place of search results
Then Seo spam to get top results of those keyword searches.
Ed Zitron diagnosed the causes and timing of the rot:
https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/
It's an incredible, and specific read. Love this.
Thank you for that article! He’s a truly good writer, and I read a couple more of his entries before I bookmarked his site.
FTA
Holy shit, this writer pulls no punches.
to play devil's advocate, personalizing does get results the user more often wants
Small typo: You spelled "ad buyer" wrong.
Porqué no los dos?
Great question -- Because the process of enshittification requires the subordination of the user's interests to the interests of businesses (ad buyers, in Google's case), which in turn will be subordinated to the interests of shareholders. In principle, it should be possible to balance los dos in a pro-consumer, non-cynical way, but in practice, more line go up. Line must go up. Enshittification optimizes for line go up.
I understand that that’s the general trend of public companies. However, I think that this specific action benefits both.
Is there any way to turn off the garbage-tier AI in Google searches?
https://udm14.org/
You can also add an extension for firefox/ ff mobile. Search for udm14 and you'll find it. Keep in mind this also kills things that are more useful like sports schedules, calculator, time in different cities etc. that Google does automatically. So if I want that I just open an incognito tab to bypass the extension.
Startpage is basically a different frontend for Google and doesn't have this
Part of the problem is that Google now defaults to "All" (web, shopping, news, video, etc) instead of defaulting to Web only and allowing you to select if you want video, or shopping or news etc. That's a lot of what I see complained about most.
This is first and foremost because Google is an ad aggregation company and they literally want to keep you on the page longer to serve you more ads.
The second problem is that the SEO for Google is so abused at this point that it's laughable. Search engine optimisation was useful until companies and people started trying to hack it in order to have their results show up before competitors. Because large competitors also have money, it's no longer enough to just pay to play.
Feel free to correct me as I see other comments saying the same thing, but I don’t believe Google wants you to spend a lot of time reviewing a specific search result.
They don’t have refreshing display or video ads where time on site really makes a difference. They want you to click on a sponsored result, which is a paid action worth way more than a viewed impression.
The more you scroll, the more ads they can serve on one page. So if you scroll to the bottom, don't see the results you want, you're likely to try to reword what you were searching for which will bring up new results and more ads. When you think about the fact that 4-5 of the first results are ads generally (if not more) and you have to scroll past those to get a result that isn't an ad, you recognize that they are maximizing time spent looking at ads because that's what they are selling to their real customers (the ad services for whom they aggregate).
This scenario makes it more likely that you will click on a sponsored result, backtrack, scroll some more, not see what you're looking for, re-word your search query, click on maybe another sponsored result, backtrack etc.
Bad? Google just proved that they can get you to stay on their search page (or come back to get a different answer) for way longer than you need... this is a WIN for them.
The enshittification of the internet + the greed inherent in these mega corps have caused websites to be designed to
grabsteal your attention for as long as possible. The longer they can keep you on their site, the more money/data/attention/time they can get out of you.If search was designed to benefit the user, a typical visit would result in maybe 5-10 seconds of someone's time to enter a search and click on the relevant result. You proved that when you compared it to DDG 😀
Yeah except OP already said they don't use Google anymore, presumably because they got fed up with it. As the expression goes, pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered. If Google has bogged down the web search experience so much that people are defecting then they've gone too far.
Believe me, Google does enough a/b testing, and has enough experience in psychological manipulation to know where "the line" is for most people.
Sure, some will never use their product(s) again when pushed too far, but they don't really need *everyone* to be using their products.
Only the users they can profit from the most are of value. If a terrible UI, awful UX, or even a paid subscription doesn't scare them away from using a Google Product, then each of those users becomes a cash cow.
I think it's most evident when you do something like search "(venue name) Events"
Where you would normally get the venues events page as a top hit, Google tries to get you to get that info without ever visiting their page via a card.
Wait until they put ads into the AI search results.
It's going to destroy so many businesses. Imagine when only one software company can afford that ad? Or one real estate agent. Or one shoe repairer. It's a literal bidding war for the one and only answer / result. It's despicable.
They'll probably mix it up, and randomize the results of different categories... I guess?
But the last thing AI search needs is spam.
Yeah i started to notice this as well. Also a ton of nsfw stuff nowadays seems to not show up anymore. Duckduckgo is even worse through. For what ever reason Yandex gets better results then google and duckduckgo. Not a fan of yandex in general though.
my conspiracy is they added an ai that reinterprets what you search to combat seo, but it backfired and now google just gives you the wrong answer
Counterpoint:
Here's the SO question you found. The second-most highest rated answer:
I'll click on the link you sent me, and start reading carefully, trying to find the answer. Here's how it went. I am not faking or deliberately trying any wrong things here. I'm just grabbing the most central solution it's presenting me on any given page, and trying it.
Here's the progress:
Cool. I click on that question.
Cool.
Oh. I need an API key. Okay, that one's useless.
I read another answer.
That means nothing to me.
I hit back. We're back at the original page you linked me to:
Already covered. It doesn't work.
Are you getting sick of reading these? So am I! I want to remind that DDG gave me the answer at the top of the page, as a tool that would solve the problem for me.
Sure, let's try the Cmd+Option+I solution.
Hey! Look at that. www.youtube.com wants to use my microphone. I can:
I think we're done here. For all I know I would have been able to find it in the network tab of developer tools while searching for the channel, but I think the point is made. I didn't say that the answer didn't exist *anywhere* on SO, I said that the things I was trying because either Google or SO were telling me they were the answer were not working.
Edit: I reread your comment and got confused. For me, the screenshot you're showing has 26 points, and shows up below all of the answers that I showed above, which have 259, 79, 32, and 30 points respectively. How many points does it have on your page, to show as the second highest answer? I didn't deliberately stop reading *right* before the answer. I absolutely made a sincere effort to find the answer on that page, documenting my progress as I went.
Oops, the answer I mentioned was 2nd only if you sorted by "recent votes count more"... Weird how that's not the default already.
The mystery is solved. People are trying to provide good answers to strangers for free because they are good and helpful. Google's senseless reorganization of things is causing them not to function anymore. And then, Stack Overflow's bad configuration is defeating those good people's efforts to provide them to me.
I think we've learned that SO has succumbed to the same organizational syphilis that Google contracted a few years earlier.
Weirdly channel pages don't seem to have that About tab for me, had to click More... on the channel description to get a popup thing where you could then share the channel and get Channel ID as described in your steps
You should ask it for medical advise
YtTags is another useful tool
My issue is that, every time I try to use DDG or something else, I can't find the answers I'm looking for almost without exception, so I end up going back to a google search, where I usually do find what I'm seeking. Are there ANY viable alternatives?
Kagi is the real deal, but it costs money. You get what you pay for.
I made the switch recently. I love it but do wish it was a fair bit cheaper.
I've been using Kagi since February and it's been superb. I typically find what I need in the first 5 results and the ability to customize it is really nice.
It costs a little money, but honestly it's saved me so much time over the 12,000 or so searches I've conducted that it's worth it. Previously I'd sometimes have to hit up some combination of Google, Bing, DDG, Brave, etc. just to get somewhere.
i switched to a SearXNG instance a while ago and i am pretty happy with it!
look at https://searx.space/ to find one with a good response time for you and try out if theres something you like :-)
Yes SearXNG is awesome. You can even self host your own instance for added security/privacy. I have my own instance running on a free tier Oracle cloud 1core/1GB ram and it works great.
I use Ecosia (which uses Bing results) and it seems decent, although I haven't used Google or DDG in a while so I can't compare.
I'm with you but I wouldn't trust search results that point me to a 3rd party tool to do whatever I need to do. Unless the link in question is actually well known and I've just been living under a rock, then don't mind me
Umm, or just go to the youtube channel, click the more link on the description, click "share channel" button and click "copy channel id"
In fact, that's what the second SO answer says.
Edit: See comment below
*fifth, with SO's default sorting, after several screens full of wrong answers
It's a wonderful answer and I appreciate knowing about it now, because that process definitely wasn't the first idea that came to my mind. If only Google and SO had given *that* answer to me before I did the whole adventure I pasted into my post and comment.
I also recreated your adventure and could not find the proper answer. Just awful.
View source worked for me, but there's a couple of tricks to it I think...maybe.
First I made sure I was on the channel's main page and not one of the channel's videos. Then I did right-click "view source". The source is all smashed together (unformatted) of course. It's annoying to search and read like that, so I copy-pasted the source into my favorite text editor and was able to find "channelid" it that way.
after calling google a great search engine dude and google goes mr krabs mode (best i can describe their greed)
search or the chatbot as those sound like prompts but maybe I am misunderstanding?
It's search. I'm copy-pasting the content going down from the top of the page, adding my own commentary.
ah. that might have been it. anyway I agree. I use duck duck go and even that is getting worse and I hit google sometimes and I can't believe how bad its gotten. In every way. maps and such to.
Conversely, I poked my head into Open Street Map the other day to contribute some new bike rack locations I found and it's amazing the amount of detail people have curated on there. I can see where the streetlights are in the parking lots, every power pole, etc. Soon I'll be able to see what color the Marigolds in your mom's yard are. :D
The enshittification of maps didn't hit me as hard as search did, but maps was always a centralized service with a few key players, whereas the enshittification of search was helped by the web 2.0 shift.
Well, you're searching for something that is inherently against Youtube's TOS. You're not supposed to be able to see channel ID's for channels you don't own. This isn't Google Search's deficit, it's you looking for something that doesn't have any relevance to anyone except a channel owner. You can't do anything with someone else's channel ID.
I am fetching the RSS feeds for particular channels, for which I need the channel ID.
Google gives out not only the RSS feed, but also the channel ID, if you click the menu under “share”, as someone else pointed out to me a couple days ago. You are very confused about things. This thing about it being against the TOS is pure fantasy.