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I've never had any trouble running adobe software on Linux.
I've also never tried, but still the statement is technically correct.
I'm laughing way too hard at this.
Honestly this is the best answer.
Like, use the tools that work for your use case?
I fucking hate macs but man using a video editor on windows was a pain back in the day. Where I would rather set up a server on Linux, than use whatever the hell windows servers operate.
I was taking to my sister, who is an artist, about setting up Linux and warned them about poor Adobe support. Their response was "⭐ 𝒻𝓊𝒸𝓀 𝒶𝒹𝑜𝒷𝑒 ⭐" due to their AI shenanigans and high costs.
So thanks modern Adobe for making it easier for people to switch to Linux.
The answer is very much "Don't run Photoshop"
(Fuck Adobe. There, I said it)
"It is always ethical to pirate adobe"
It's never unethical to pirate Adobe, but it's always *more* ethical to use Free Software instead and deny Adobe the mindshare.
It's far more ethical to make the company lose money
Minimum amount for photoshop is 22$/month
Pirate photoshop
Delete it
Pirate again
Repeat 30 times
Adobe looses 660$
If everyone does this adobe will loose so much
Lol I've been using cs5 until yesterday. V24 now
Investors hate this one glitch!
They don't care as they have a massive profit margin. What matters more is the market share. You got to break the standard way of thinking industry wide.
That's not at all how piracy works. They don't lose any money by me not buying their product, the money was never theirs to lose. They can earn money if I buy it, but if I don't, then nothing changed. It's not like every company is entitled to my money.
Pirating or using Gimp or Krita instead, has the exact same effect on them, ie me not buying their product.
You must be fun at parties.
Gimp is behind on features and ui optimisation and krita is art focused
Voice of reason
I never understood that argument. Do or do not.
Goto www.PhotoPea.com instead. :)
Fuck Adobe
Fuck I'd love an actual equivalent alternative on Windows too. GIMP, while great in the past, is nowhere near modern Photoshop, it's closer to modern Paint, which is just sad.
There's a ton of people and businesses that hate Adobe, the lack of real alternatives is fascinating.
Krita, rawtherapee, dark table, digikam, affinity. Just depends what you are trying to do. If you're used to photoshop there's nothing exactly the same and it will take effort to move but I think it's worth it, I'm still on the journey of learning as a hobbyist and have mostly been using dark table for photo editing
Darktable is fine as a hobbyist, but it doesn’t fully replace Lightroom when you get into semi-professional and professional workloads.
I need to give it another try, but my 12TB raw file library is so unwieldy to manage that I haven’t tried importing it all there. Plus the AI generative removal and Denoising is pretty important to a lot of my workflows.
Sadly there is no alternative that is even remotely as capable
It depends on what you do
Well the obvious answer would be all the professional Photoshop capable things man, we can love Linux and still admit there's areas for growth
True but I think most people don't use every feature
If you want to edit photos then Affinity is passable, and GIMP is a joke.
If all you want to do is draw, then Krita is a very capable alternative to Photoshop, but being good at only a specific subset of Photoshop capabilites doesn't turn it into a replacement for it
Depends what you want to do to photos. It just adjustments without trickery, darktable is fantastic.
I make my memes in gimp and it works for me.
Gimp has been just fine.
Yeah, it’s kind of true. I’ve tried a bunch of Lightroom and Photoshop alternatives. Pixelmator and Photomator for iOS and macOS are my absolute favorites. I wish I could get around Affinity software better, but I can do 95% of what I need in Pixelmator. And I love some of the select tools.
Bonus: Davinci Resolve is a big switch for Premiere users— but worth it, and even CapCut’s free features can help with the basics.
What? This is a normal headphone dongle for macs.
Don't be ridiculous, mac users have neat and tidy usb hubs. iPhone users on the other hand...
Good faith response here so pardon me if it's a swoosh moment. One of my devices is a fairly recent Mac. And it has a headphone jack. Which I appreciate greatly.
But is it SCSI or 1/4" TRS?
Connected through every single coax connector made by man.
Are you trying to use a guitar as an input device for PhotoShop?
???
What else would you use?
Reverse polarity positron emitter.
You get the most accurate memes if you use the large hadron collider as your input device. Though be careful, sometimes you can get a bit of antimatter on them, so don't touch or lick the meme.
Surely you'd want the detector?
That's the fun part. The emitter *is* the detector. It will invert the beam of it detects anything.
*angry F chord*
Everybody knows d minor is the saddest of all keys.
Are you criticizing my MIDI art?
Say what you will, this is an efficient and elegant way to store your adapters. I’m envious.
Until you need one and your OCD having ass can't break the chain so you buy a new one ...
I just went through this last night....VMware workstation +windows 10 + passthrough.
There are Linux users trying to use Photoshop?
As a challenge... for science 👀...
Photoshop cs2 is
free to downloadand probably works well on wine as its old as hell.Edit: Correction. You used to o be able to download cs2 from adobe website. This is no longer the case.
GIMP has always been able to do what I needed more or less. Its got a learning curve and sometimes I still dont 100% how something works but for basic photo editing, meme making, and converting photos to different file types (why is .webp not universally supported yet?) Its pretty good.
When theres a problem doing something in GIMP it always felt like the issue was my own understanding of the toolset conbined with not-great documentation being given. I never felt like I encountered the limits of the program itself.
I'm sure if you are a professional graphics person who needs advanced tools theres things only PS can provide and its user interface is probably more friendly. But for me, the average joe schmo, GIMP gets the job done 95% of the time with little to no headache.
Some people do overestimate how much of the software they’re actually using, and how far back some features go. I learned the little PS I know using a 7.0 license my father bought, I used it for years doing 2D graphics and web “design”, and still basically still have the same workflow with minor differences to avoid destructive changes.
I've seen someone using Adobe Acrobat just for splitting PDF documents.
You can skip 3 of these adapters if you upgrade to the latest libraries, downgrade your microcode, turn off WiFi, and bench press a goat. It turns out it was the goat involved I'm the process, rather than the sacrifice, that made that stuff work.
Love the rs232 to scsi adapter that thing is dope.
*Audiophile screeching in the distance as you enjoy perfectly fine 48k through this bad boy
I was hoping I could plug it into my guitar & watch the sounds on an old computer monitor…
Do you think it would work?
All we need to do is build a similar setup and then find a guitar and a CRT and see what happens
Edit: actually, I've got a guitar and a CRT and maybe half of the pieces there. The big thing I'm concerned about is destroying the CRT. I have no idea how sensitive CRTs are or how much power is coming from a guitar.
I have no idea if it would work, but I do have a spare CRT monitor if you blow yours up.
Maybe look into a direct box? I had to use one when recording to change the ohms between the instrument & the usb interface in the tower.
I'll take a look at it. The CRT is a bit sentimental to me (it's the same model as the one my first PC had, managed to find one on eBay in good condition after like, a year of searching) which is why I'm concerned about blowing it up. However, I might see if any electronics recycling places in my area have a shitty, beat-up CRT TV they'd be willing to part with. That said, I discovered recently that most of the remaining recycling places in my area are run by computer enthusiasts and tend to sell or hold onto anything with any value like CRTs though, so wish me luck.
Kinda genius really. Into old PCs but don't wanna pay eBay prices for them? Become an electronics recycler and then people will pay *you* to take their old SGI workstations and Sony BVMs.
What's so funny? This is how we played multiplayer Doom in 94.
Just dropping this here
https://forum.mattkc.com/viewtopic.php?t=336
mattkc USES LINUX? based.
he uses KDE too
I love Matt's videos.
He had a video describing how he *completely* switched to Linux and he showcased Photoshop in the video. It was immensely satisfying for me.
of course he uses arch
He uses custom build Nobara
You can't do that shit any other way, you use either Arch or Void.
true
I don’t use Adobe, I make money just fine without it.
It's hard to make money from Adobe when they charge you £66 a month.
Wait until you hear about rent.
Not too hard with WinApps. I just use GIMP.
"This is what me and the boys biologically did you your mom last night"
You daisy chain your dicks in the others ass in descending order of size until the smallest one fucks her?
One thrusts every second, the next one every two, then four, ...
Yes.Jesus Christ man
Or just use Photopea like a non-self abusive person
try gimp first and if you spend 15 minutes raging, use photopea.
Too late, in too deep with gimp never gonna leave 🥲
I have the opposite problem
I learned GIMP first
When I try to use Photoshop/Photopea/whatever I'm useless at it because the keymaps are all different.
i don't graphic design or edit images really and photopea is barable if i want to do more than add text.
That's why I said Photopea instead of GIMP
Add one more adapter to plug that 1/4" into a sound card, plug a printer into the other end, and then hire Abdul Alhazred to write a Cups driver.
back in the 90s piggybacking peripherals was a common way to upgrade your machine
And today we complain about having 2 separate cables, type c and lightning
Thinderbolt is gonna flop, same as Firewire, mark my words.
Did firewire really flop? Lots of devices from the early 2000s have it and it works really well. Everyone used it to get video from cameras and using it for target disk mode on macs is amazing
My point was, it flopped as a standard. It's not that it's good or bad, it's just not used any more, there are no new devices with FireWire. USB killed it essentially. The same will happen with Thunderbolt, USB 3.x will kill it.
I seriously doubt there will be something that will replace USB. It's backwards compatible to oblivion and just supports newer and newer things. It's very hard to beat that.
USB 3.x killing thunderbolt wouldn't make any sense, USB 4 is based on the Thunderbolt 3 spec. I would agree that USB *4* will replace Thunderbolt but only because it *is* Thunderbolt
Strange, I've never found a use for a lightning cable.
hardware dongles were the worst. god forbid you wanted to run 3ds and lightwave on the same box, sentinel didn't like other dongles goddamnit
Neither does HASP.
Better than waiting for GIMP to load fonts, I'd wager.
What do you mean? Doesn't it just use the fonts installed on the system?
When I load it, I get the message, "Looking for data files" and below that "Fonts (this might take a while)". And it does take a while.
Weird, when I start gimp it just speeds through a floating window with different inititialization steps that are all about the same duration (<2s for the whole thing to start though).
When I first used the Adobe suite it was on a Mac, I assumed it ran best on non-Windows machines. This was in 2005... Why would they have to make it so hard to use on Linux?
They just don't wanna port it to Linux... it's basically that simple.
It's a conspiracy, orchestrated by Big Adapter
I'm just about to windows myself back again but use Chris Titus mini windows version
Edit: I will really miss KDE though...
Edit2: so far the Chris Titus mini windows is quite good for a windows. No junk except for the junking install.
Edit3: someone needs to make KDE for windows. I don't know or care how but I need it.
Or you could use LTSC 🤷.
Is windows 11 ltsc a thing yet?
Yep, released this year. You can find ISOs on archive.org.
Use Krita instead
Krita is a different kind of tool used for drawing, but still really good. I don't even know the adobe way to do this lol.
Gimp would be image post processing software like photoshop is. Also Inkscape is a vector graphics software like adobe illustrator.
Oh you wanna do a pdf? Use Libreoffice and export as pdf. Krita is a open source alternative to photoshop as is gimp. Gimp has came a long way and is a functional replacement for photoshop these days without all the ugly AI stuff.
GIMP has PDF support too.
I think I read that but I've never tried. I mostly use gimp for image format conversion. My daughter on the other hand can make both Krita and Gimp do all kinds of tricks.
It opens each page as a layer, which makes sense to me but I'm not sure it's what you'd expect.
I also do really like finding proud parents on Lemmy btw :3
Nah, I prefer my parallel port
You mean that Centronics SCSI terminator?
Photo pea use webapps if it feels comfy.
My answer to things like this is "why would I want to do something like that?".
How do I run Paint Shop Pro 9 on Linux?
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2505
Well ain’t that just a string of memories.
Just use Krita or the Affinity line of software (works under WINE pretty much flawlessly).
You've managed to get the affinity stuff working under wine? I can't get publisher to work correctly. I just wish they would make a native version. I'm happy to give them money for it even.
I don't use Publisher, I used Affinity photo and it didn't give me any problems - I assumed it was the same for the rest of their stuff, but maybe I was mistaken.
Imagine your livelihood depending on adobe, how do you take yourself seriously?
Pro retoucher here. Guess I'm just a silly goose them.
I mean you're not a 'pro retoucher' if you require adobe to do your job, you're simply an adobe user.
I mean that makes absolutely no sense at all. It's what the professionals use for good reason.
Popularity alone doesn't make it good (see ms windows) and yet it is still what professionals use because it's popular.
Yeah, what makes it good is the unparalelled feature set, which is also why the pros use it.
Going to be honest here
Windows is good for general professional use. Linux is absolutely terrible. MacOS is also decent.
Professionals use windows because everyone knows how it functions, it has robust and supported user management and Microsoft provides significant enterprise support to companies using their operating system.
Linux only has some of those features, they’re often half-assed or unsupported, and there’s no central authority for help.
It’s fine for personal machines, but I absolutely disagree that the only thing windows has going for it is popularity.
Hah, we used to have some of those AUI to 10Base2 transducers back in the day in the office. Definitely had one on the IBM RS6000/220 box.
I recall a native build of Photoshop 3 running on Irix. That was a long time ago though.
Me running from DP to HDMI to
DPDVI on a family members computer because I had those cables/adapter.Reminds me of a setup I had for local serial multiplayer on my Atari ST. I had cable going from the ST's 25 pin serial port to a 9-pin connector, a gender changer, a null modem module, then 9-pin back to 25-pin. But hey, it worked.
thats me with affinity (and you need a custom version of wine) 💀
update: i did it and it actually worked yipee i accidentaly deleted the wine folder so i have to compile it again
No, you just run
winecfg🤨.Gimp sucks.
And ps works with wine if you have it on windows already and drag over some system32 dlls
Gimp used to suck. Gimp 3 is amazing.
Krita is great.
Inkscape is OK.
Having all three requires less space than Photoshop and Illustrator and covers about every feature of both.
Granted i havent tried gimp 3. Ill have to give it a try. But im so fast with ps. And i hate how each program needs to have their own control schemes to differentiate.
I just dont get why people hate photoshop to the point of being unhelpful when people ask how to get it working. Especially when many people are pirating it anyways.
It takes a while getting used to anything.
Gimp does have a Photoshop keyboard shortcut preset, to ease you into it.
And gimp does have some parts that are better. For example importing a bunch of images and lining them up on a spritesheet is both faster and easier on Gimp. And both Photoshop and gimp have scripts to do this, but I was never able to get the Photoshop script to work.
you shouldn't waste any time or energy on an adobe product. and if you think that advice is unhelpful then you literally can't be helped.
Yeah, like that.
The reason I still don't daily Linux (that and wireless VR streaming doesn't)
The problem that arises is that you have to remember three different UIs and run them all simultaneously which I've measured use up more RAM, which sometimes reduces my efficency and increases my system resources more, instead of using the shit UI of Photoshop that the whole world decided to accept as the defacto standard to duplicate
It is all keyboard shortcuts, though, and you can configure them to all use the same ones. I believe they have a "Photoshop-like" preset you can select too.
About the RAM, I'm not sure what can be done. I guess it is a tradeoff. I'd probably go with more RAM consumption over Photoshop because I have a lot of RAM, but not everyone do. Considering the price of Photoshop if you didn't pirate it, it would be cheaper to buy and install more RAM, though.
Found the time traveler!
(The stable version of Gimp is 2.10.38, and even the latest dev snapshot -- which is what I assume he means by "Gimp 3" -- is technically "only" 2.99.18.)
I guess I should have been more specific.
I believe it's a gimp 3 pre release (and the final one too). Works great for me though it still has some occasional crashes on my wayland setup.
Gimp doesn't suck as an image editor, it just sucks as a Photoshop clone, which it was never meant to be. It's an amazing image editor.
I've been using Gimp for simple things, and it's been OK once I realized that whatever I want to do, I should look it up first instead of just trying to figure it out through trial and error.
It's life changing when you start to rtfm.
It makes memes
Or just run it in a Windows VM and save yourself a ton of grief? Win10 LTSC works just fine.
Meeh, I dual boot.
I want context
You know that drawer with that pile of oldschool adapter shit from 25+ years ago laying around? Yeah...
drawershipping containerYeah... and all of that is kept "just in case"... turns out "just in case" can be fun.
photoshop trying to run on a gnu operating system*
Ooooor, go to photopea. Dont need to download anything but just open a browser
Yeah... I wouldn't use any web based tools if I was working on my own art, or anything commissioned for a customer, or anything copyrighted.
Of course, I wouldn't use Adobe either after the whole AI thing.
gimp!
I love this, buy fuck off with that anti-Linux content on Lemmy.
We only have few places. :)
Edit: unless we're talking about servers and phones, in which case we have most of them
It's already lost. Lemmy is mainly now just users that hate reddit (the company itself). It doesn't have the same far-left/progressive and tech loving atmosphere it did only a few months ago.
edit: And yes, I do understand most of the population is moderate/centrist and not fans of free and open source software.
Yeah, I've noticed that change as well. It was fun while it lasted.
There just isn't enough content. Yes, some interesting info and shared links, but I like my social media mixed up, as in, some serious thread, then a few jokes/shitposts, then some more serious threads. There isn't enough of that any more.
And the rules in most funny/shitpost comms are kinda strict when it comes to comedy. So I just stopped posting stuff all together on most comms, except a few.