p3x.deThat's why i deleted Reddit account twice and I moved to Lemmy, I don't want forcing you to use shitty Reddit app to view Unreviewed content subreddits
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Funny how they don't even pretend there's any logic to it. If you can view it in the app, then the content has been reviewed after all...? Clearly just a way to enforce app usage.
They don't say it, but you can also go to old.reddit and there's none of those stupid warnings.
Still blocks my vpn though
It's inconsistent for mine. Sometimes I will get in no problem, sometimes I bounce off until I change IP/location, and sometimes I get hard blocked.
They want ad revenue and the app is the only place they can be confident you’re not blocking.
I hate the fact that reddit has so much valuable data in it, like thousands of extremely niche subreddits and answers to your questions.
I wish someone could just mirror it all
Actually, I found archiveteam's reddit dump. I think we can re-host this on activitypub, as a form of read-only, easy to browse archive.
The data is on archive.org is marked non-downloadable to limit traffic. I emailed archive.org requesting one of the 10GB pieces to experiment with. Fingers crossed
I heard that they gave links when you emailed them but nah
There's this torrent if you're interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pushshift/comments/194k9y4/reddit_dump_files_through_the_end_of_2023/
yooo thanks this is awesome
Doing it all at once could be tough, but
one niche sub at a time maybe?
The other issue is that Reddit hosts a ton of illegal content including stuff that could possibly be CP and bestiality, along with full service sex work, drug dealing, and shoplifting/stealing Reddits. Somehow the laws that took down Backpage and Craigslist personals left Reddit pretty much unscathed.
Spez himself was the moderator for r/jailbait. A large function of Reddit is to data mine people and then (I speculate) blackmail them later for this illegal/adult/unrevealed content if they turn out to be influential. This is also why Reddit is so extremely picky about their porn subs and who (in terms of adult Content Creators) they allow to post/interact with users, and why they no longer have mod transparency.
And before anyone starts calling me too crazy, let me add one more crazy conspiracy to the pile- the conspiracy that Ghilisaine Maxwell was a regular poster to the News subreddits. Sorry to link to this sub, but this does have the tldr of this conspiracy and links etc fornthe curious. In general r/conspiracy is a rightwing shithole ofc. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/r45a5n/here_is_the_evidence_that_reddit_user_maxwellhill/
Epstein was a fraudster who, once he was caught, needed money. He got it from Les Wexler (and maybe org crime?) who gave him a house outfitted with cameras. Epstein wasn't a trafficker as his primary purpose. He was getting blackmail.
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/new-albany/jeffrey-epsteins-connection-to-new-albanys-transformation/amp/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Journalism/comments/wzdtx2/awardwinning_journalist_craig_unger_recounts_how/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Columbus/comments/d81t8y/the_suppressed_columbus_police_report_on_the_1985/
I see.
*had. I deleted all my posts that I could find. I hope many others did the same. "Conveniently" these assholes limit how far back in your post history you can go, and beyond that I can no longer delete comments because I can't systematically browse them to edit in "Fuck reddit!". :/
Does old.reddit.com not work anymore ?
It does - ever since the "new new UI" I had been using that exclusively. Still, there's a limit in how many pages back you can go in your comment history to edit / delete. If you happen to find one of your old comments by other means, you can still edit it - but not through your own history. But I see that long before that caps out, some of my comments have already been restored, after having been gone for months... Those fuckers...
Wait, this makes it sound like you were doing it by hand? There's quite a few tools to do that for you, e.g. https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
I was - I had waited a bit too long and the API was locked down, I was under the impression that the deletion tools no longer worked (and a bit hesitant to give my login / password to some third party tool)
Over the last year I think I've dropped in about six times out of sheer habit, and each time I am driven away by the undeniable force of asshole design.
That's only on mobile browser mode. Open your browser settings and select Desktop site and you won't see that modal anymore.
Still an asshole design, though.
We're expecting a giant influx of users when the popular workaround, old.reddit.com (perhaps with RES to make it less outdated), inevitably gets shut down. Please try to make Lemmy a worthwile space in the meantime so that they stay!
Reddit is already rate-limiting old.reddit.com traffic. There are already few threads about it.
Hadn't heard that, could you drop a link?
https://old.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/1em8ywa/reddit_is_trying_to_kill_oldredditcom/
Thanks! Maybe they are doing this because old.reddit is more convenient to scrape, and stopping unauthorized data collection seems to be a priority for them? Since it isn't actively worked on you wouldn't need to constantly update a scraping program every time there's a change to the site that breaks it.
As long as they’re fans of trans positive meme dumps and endless half-serious slap fights about distros, they'll feel right at home.
They won't even notice anything changed
...you also must despise Trump, and if you don't, you will.
Don't forget the Rule 34 manga and rhetoric of not sexualising anything. Also the college kid Marxists.... and Linux cults... And figuring out liberalism and "American liberals" are polar opposites. Basically avoid .ml And obviously don't let anyone know your skin colour, gender, or sexual preferences if they're vanilla. And support all war that's against Russia. I think that's it- Oh, and don't reply to the same person more than twice in a thread.
Apart from that, they'll feel right at home.
Ah, yeah, and obv use Thunder.
You forgot to mention the furry porn... so much furry porn...
What is thunder?
It's an open source Lemmy app for both iOS and Android
Is it better than voyager?
And please actively remind people to remain civil. We can be better than Reddit in so many ways. I believe!
Yes. However, we need to solve the chicken-and-egg problem of niche communities. For example, there is no Czech community *at all* after both the czech-lemmy.eu and kyberpunk.social instances went down. It's only once the communities get going and start appearing in "All/Active" feeds that I'd worry about serious moderation.
It's a tough position to be in for non-English and regional communities. For something like a game you can cross post in both a general videogames community and a more specific one and help people find it, but there's not much of an option for any sort of non-English non-pop culture topic.
Feddit.org is quite active
Jlai.lu has 600 monthly active users on the main community
I think Lemmy is and will be quite good at remaining civil because the questionable content makers use their own instances and get defederated. The most edgy community federated with the main cluster I found is !funhole@lemmy.sdf.org. It features cryptic posts that presumably make sense if you engage in the decentralized (IRC? Telnet??) discourse channels of sdf.org and some appear to be pro-fascist depending on how you interpret the questionable veil of sarcasm. I don't think it's serious enough to consider defederation because the worst ones get massively downvoted anyway.
If it helps any, those memes go straight over my head.
They're not just staying on those instances tho...
When they get defederated (usually long before) they find a small boutique instance (that's actually valid) but didn't bother to set up any requirements for account creation then make a shit ton of accounts to troll with.
If you ever look at the main modlog you'll see there's a significant amount getting banned on a daily basis.
But they just go make another, and even tho most instances are doing something about it, there's a surprising amount of zombie instances no one will ever change but are still running for some reason and federated with large instances.
Eventually the main ones will need to "prune" a lot of instances, which shouldn't be surprising considering a year ago everyone wanted to federate with everyone.
Imagine just walking thru a city and inviting literally everyone to come hang out at your apartment, even giving them the door code to get I to your building. That's kind of what happened.
I joined lemmy just over a year ago when reddit killed its API. I hoped that my favorite subreddit would come here too but it didn't so I wandered back to reddit. I was clinging to old.reddit.com and would probably have stayed around for as long as that lasted. But recently they began requiring email addresses. That was too much and here I am.
Can I ask which subreddit or is it private? I know which communities I miss but I'm curious what communities we need to cultivate for others.
You may ask, yes.
My account still works without an email address.
Well that's not fair.
How are you seeing that an email is required? Is it when you try to post something? My account is banned so I just us it to lurk but I can still log in.
My account is banned. I can still log in and lurk, but not post, upvote, etc. And, as I already said: When I log in to the main site, it says "account permanently banned". When I log in to old reddit, it says "provide an email to reactivate your account".
Lemme apps are better now anyway, and no ads
Yup. They got so desperate for money they first screwed developers with the API change and now they’re going to push this more and more. My expectation is they’re going to slowly move toward forcing usage of the official app or absolutely nothing else.
Spaz is desperate for ad money. I’m only in a few subs that have no Lemmy equivalent yet, but otherwise I’ve ditched reddit like the steaming pile of shit that it’s become.
Google just paid them many millions of dollars to ensure that won't happen.
Havent tried for a while, but you used to be able to change the url to
https://old.reddit.com/r/…..
to bypass these shitty “use our app instead”. You don’t get mobile view but you can at least see it
the "new" design is pretty much unusable on desktop too, imo. IF I absolutely must visit reddit, old.reddit it is.
There's also firefox extension that does just that, in case you forget.
On mobile you can use RedReader. When reddit revoked access to its API, it made an exception for RedReader, because that app supports certain accessibility features which are "not yet" (i.e. never will be) supported by the official reddit app. So if you still want to access reddit on mobile, use RedReader, it has no ads and is much less irritating than the official reddit app.
I think they made an exception because it's so awful that no one would ever want to use it...
😂 I could understand why some people feel that way.
I like it because it does not have any ads, and because it's very easy to switch between accounts. You can even post from one account while logged in to another.
But that is the only reddit mobile app that I ever used. I never even downloaded the official one, nor did I try any of the other third party ones that got blocked. I could believe that some of them were much better than RedReader.
It's funny because Ukrainian war videos are put into the main feed, and you can watch the videos. But when you click the title to read the comments it asks you to login for sensitive content.
It's such a shitty, buggy and slow website.
Try clicking the comment number link, not the title link. I don't understand the difference, but it sometimes it changes things.
If you absolutely have to read something from reddit and it throws this, just switch to the desktop site instead of mobile.
Desktop doesn't work anymore, gotta use old.reddit now.
I don't know what you're using but request desktop version in Firefox on Android works fine. Tried it just now.
Literally firefox, on my desktop.
lol not literal desktop, the “Request Desktop Site” on phone browsers
Which I assumed was the same experience as "desktop mode" on mobile, since that's what it is supposed to be.
Wait, what? We're talking about Reddit trying to force you to use their app instead of a browser. That's on mobile. Are you saying your experience on a desktop is that Reddit is telling you to use their app instead of the browser, on the desktop?
Also, you have to be a madman to even try regular Reddit instead of old.reddit on the desktop.
Yes, on Firefox on endeavorOS I get a prompt to switch to the app visiting subreddits like this.
And i don't use regular reddit, I just don't use reddit often enough to install a redirect plugin.
And the old.reddit site I believe
Frankly I am astonished that this still works.
Those who use old reddit to get around it wouldn't likely get the app anyway, so why even try blocking it?
Hard disagree.
The same reason new Reddit exists. The same reason they blocked third party apps from using their API; To increase engagement and serve you more ads more effectively.
How so? It already takes knowledge and effort, what would another hoop change?
If the gains outweigh the cost.
Hilarious how their logic completely breaks down when doing that, and they don't even care if you know.
They want you to download the app so they can collect your data and push ads that can't be blocked with browser extensions.
And whenever they want to drop a site-wide ban for any reason, it’s easier to punish the whole device instead of fixing issues or pretending that most of the ad viewership doesn’t consist of bots.
I just posted to Reddit about my Twystlock gaming accessory release. Something free for everyone.
Most subreddits don't allow cross-posting, so I made 5 posts in total. 1 was taken down by mods. 3 were taken down by Reddit. Only
r/Handheldssurvived.I don't use Reddit anymore in day to day, but I've had releases like Winapps sit at the top of
r/Linuxfor days and never had these issues until more recently. Garbage.And yes, before anyone asks, of course I posted to Lemmy first 😆
Thanks 😄
Still don't understand why so many block cross posting.
They love to call it brigading
I cannot stress this enough: if you just want to browse reddit without interacting with anyone and supporting their greedy, stupid bullshit, I highly recommend RDX.
I can second this, it’s handy enough for the occasional check
I’m checking it out by your recommendation. I do post sometimes so I use Dystopia for that but oh it’s a horrendous UI. I suppose that’s why Spaz allowed it - and because it’s supposed to be for visually impaired.
Edit: doesn’t seem to offer anything substantial beyond Dystopia so I’m fine with Dystopia.
I literally said it's for people who don't interact with the site. Of course dystopia is more substantial. Lol
Oh yeah, that wasn’t a criticism sorry I was merely indicating that for me, it’s just not worth using both. Thank you for the info though, I’m sure you helped some other people who could benefit from that. :-)
Or nsfwbrowser, for you know, the good stuff
Whats that? Link?
https://nsfwbrowser.com
Lets you see all the naughty subreddits, while using reddits resources, and giving them no data or analytics
Second that. RDX now has both an iphone and Android app, but the web version works fairly well on mobile too.
Actually i prefer HMX explosives
Oh we are talking about an app?
Stop going back, it's not worth it
Unfortunately there's still a ton of valuable and interesting information submitted to that site and nowhere else.
Fortunately there is Stealth for Reddit.
What does it do?
Allows you to browse Reddit and subscribe to communities anonymously, with a really nice UI.
It's one of very few apps that I've used and been like "I have no notes". I can't really think of any way to improve it. It's perfect at what it does.
How does this work now that the API is dead?
No idea. Some sort of scraping, I assume.
Reddit, Twitter. I don't understand why they are putting so much effort into making sure that people can't use them comfortably. I always thought there should be as *few* barriers for the user as possible, otherwise they might drop out. Are these platforms more concerned about selling data for LLMs now?
They want to force people to use the app so they can steal their data easier. That's my guess lol.
This is stage 1 of enshittification. It used to be this way. Reddit is way past that stage.
👩🚀🔫🧑🚀
Fascists want to control or shut down hubs of anti-fascist discourse/organization.
Tiktok too.
Oldlander extension for Firefox. Works great.
for browsing, there's reddit viewer.
https://reddit-viewer.com/r/lifehacks?sort=hot
just choose the sub and go.
no search functionality yet, unfortunately, which i assume lots of people would find useful, but skipping login is very nice.
I am a lazy prick, so I'm just now using Power Delete Suite to mass edit my stuff on reddit to promote lemmy.
Feel free to do that too.
I've heard a fair number of people say Reddit looks for and rolls back mass delete/edits like these. Not sure how true it is.
It did for me, like once or twice. Just running the script again worked though.
Don’t delete your account, go back and mass change your posts and comments to AI generated gibberish.
It poisons their communities and will make it harder for Reddit from monetizing their content for Learned Language models for AI or for search.
Can’t they see the edits? They must have an archive for it.
They probably do, but how deep is that LLM going to go and how much can Reddit archive?
lmao, what was the subreddit?
I hit it when visiting the rdx subreddit, but it happens to pretty much all new, small subs
lol, that sucks
Why did you have to delete it twice? Once did it for me (kidding) But back when reddit was cute (long long ago) they had this thing where they’d ask “are you sure” a lot of times and switch buttons and stuff to trick you (in a playful way) I liked it back then
Tiktok does something like this (yeah i get alot of tiktoks from some of my friends)
Protip:download telegram and use vid downloader bots to save videos
there is also snaptik
I always download videos to share over Signal.
I hate opening links to view shit.
Plus, I sleep better knowing this is what it takes to get into heaven. (Along with returning your shopping cart).
For me I get them through discord (Yeah I use discord to talk with my friends and i cant just quit and leave the app)
On iOS I use Sink it for reddit to get around this
I use Dystopia for the occasional usage of Reddit out of necessity. One day once there are federated groups for all I need, I’m ditching Reddit entirely forever.
I've heard rumours that of you change your agent string in your browser you can get past this, tho not tested yet.