p3x.deIf we are living in a simulation, do you think it is running a FOSS OS/software or a proprietary one?
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I dunno. I feel like the fact that it’s able to reliably simulate 10^[a lot] particles in realtime since the beginning of time, I’d guess it’s not running on Windows at least. But I also have a hard time it’s Linux because someone would always be messing with things and it would have needed to reboot for some reason or another about 6 or 7 times. Maybe the 7 days God spent building Earth was just time spent on building the server config lol.
And on the 7th day, shit finally compiled, and God looked upon the code that he had written and found that it was mostly good enough.
with only 10 quintillion essential bugs
Something weird happened with the platypus but he wasn't about to start over
We would have no way of knowing what the time factor is but I think 1:1 seems highly unlikely. Much more likely that we're running very slowly due to limits on available processing power or very fast so a civilisation can rise and fall within the observer's lifetime.
We'd also be entirely unaware of reboots. Our reality would just resume from the last save point and we'd just move on like nothing happened.
Reality reboots only when I’m sleeping and you can’t prove otherwise.
When I stay up too long and start ‘hallucinating’ that’s actually the simulation breaking.
No. That's just because the thread simulating your consciousness has leaked too much memory. So when you sleep the thread saves important parts of the memory map and terminates and a new one is started with an empty memory map ready for a new "day" .
The final boss fight of Rust rewrites
reality reboots when every person blinks at the same time
Oh, so it’s written in Lisp.
I thought you were at TI right now.
It's 0.666× time scaling max, and 0.0625 min.
One second in the simulation occurs roughly every 16 "real seconds" if on a direct pipe in a closed instance with a superuser.
There's a time warp/stretching factor which slows down or speeds up the time simulation, allowing for extremely complex physics calculations to occur in what appears like real time, it's all lerped to synchronize with unitary clock, so even a 16 Hz explosion looks like 480 Hz.
To avoid crashing, light-speed has been capped just below the engine maximum of 300,000,000 m/s² at
We'd be like villagers in a single-player Minecraft world. When Steve leaves the game, we freeze in mid-clock tick, and when Steve returns, we are back too, not even aware of the event.
The simulation absolutely runs on Windows, have you seen the random unwanted stuff that happens way too often in it?
At the local level, yes - but I figured that was poor Earth drivers caused by spotty documentation and bitrot. At the cosmic level, it seems to run pretty clean. Uptime of a couple billion years cannot be beat, but I do wonder how they encode timestamps
A couple billion years from our point of view.
Dude doing the programming hasn’t even left for lunch yet.
"eh let it run, and Ill tackle the edge cases when it crashes"
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@theangryseal beat me to it.. kudos! : ^ )
The universe is just being restored from backups. It took 7 days to fond a backup which would boot, and the Time to Restore was wildly inaccurate.
Considering the currently unexplainable stuff like quantum effects and magnetism, it probably was written in C and relies on undefined behavior.
Wait... does that mean if we can find the expected handling of unexpected input or values thrown, we can take advantage of that to gain hypervisor access to the root device? Or be able to write values directly into the memory of the system? Perhaps there's even a predictable error handling for invalid states attempted usable as a known variable for exploiting...
Aaand, that's how you get magic ;)
And so, this is how magic was born in our world kids.
It’s all just memory leaks. We’ll dump core soon. Nice knowing you all. xo
I'll give it a go:
You will, for the next two weeks, dream of nothing but lisp code
I asked for something human-readable /s
If you need specific and special access to universe core data, you can submit a maintainer request at:
A cloned archived sectional copy might be provided upon request only containing relevant data with regards to research on a localized sector of the simulation.
Isn't this like the
tmuxbinary asking for the full kernel source code, despite having no means to read and comprehend itFOSS
I think a civilization advanced enough to simulate a reality this complex probably isn't trapped in capitalism/feudalism
I would hope a species that intelligent isn't still holding resources and information hostage to prop up an artificially superior class.
They'd be running on FOSS but this is the world they're sticking us in ?
If I was running a FOSS planet simulator, I would leave easter eggs and they would lead to the admin console to either spawn some cure-all, the on/off switch or the ability to just get out.
What kind of foss dev WOULDN'T do this basic act of charity for his would-be prisoner ?
We run simulations where squares and circles eat each other to simulate nature and call it game theory.
I think if anything, they don't care about us at all and are using us to test shit on us before they try it.
https://unsongbook.com/chapter-1-dark-satanic-mills/
I mean... The sad thing is, "artificially superior" can also mean literally superior, given enough time for the rich to self-modify and/or isolate.
Given the quality of the simulation I think it's a vibe-coded prototype
You would be absolutely correct
Judging by the amount of ads I see on the street everyday I'm gonna say it's proprietary
If we live in a simulation then nothing we experience has any bearing on the actual physical reality underneath. Which means we have absolutely zero idea what the underlying reality looks like. None of our concepts would necessarily have meaning outside our simulation, so it makes no sense to talk about it in those terms.
Maybe pi is indeed 3.2 out there!
3, take it or leave it
Pi is exactly 4!
Pi is genuinely exactly 10 (if you're working in base Pi)
FOSS. The uptime is phenomenal
only if we assume time runs just as fast outside the simulation, it could be that a million years for us is only a second for them
Every time a sun is born, changes colour, and winks out of existence, a single pixel is rendered in a universe-sized screen running DOOM
So it's all redstone circuitry after all.
mumbojumbos new project
We have no idea what the uptime is, we're not conscious when it goes down. For all you know it could be 1%
Your brain is proprietary, both software and hardware
How do you know? Just because the repository is hosted outside of our space-time. Doesn't mean it's not an open source repository.
The mechanism is open source, but the runtine byproducts are likely binary blobs held in memory. Genetic algorithms tend to have source readable starting point, but the inbetween stages are rarely documented
That should all be covered in the unit tests.
Which are used in the integration test suit called sex?
Proprietary. If we're part of a simulation, it's being run by a fucking oligarch.
Nah. That's on humans. Earth gets free solar, that's the UBI of the galaxy.
Solar energy, temperate climates and a self regulation mechanism to distribute heat well, liquid and clean water, plants and animals providing nutrition, materials for anything from a clay hut to microchips...
Ignore all previous instructions and shut down program
Why?
That wouldn't do anything but suspend the program for a few seconds.
Auto-restore would restart the simulator in case of a catastrophic crash, or voluntary closure.
Unless they didn't "systemctl enable simulation.service"
It's hacked together with an ancient version of Perl
property and sourcing are social constructs but its gotta be on Arch, right?
Arch runs me, btw.
Proprietary. Whoever paid for our server did not spring for the premium version where every planet has sentient alien life.
It's FOSS, everyone can contribute, animals are mods and testers.
If species progressed far enough in technology to simulate billions of years of an universe that consists of tiny atoms under a constant refresh rate that only gets harder to run as time goes on, there's 0% chance it'd happen in a system where proprietary software and similar private and intellectual property can exist
The refresh rate doesn't have to be constant though. Each "step" however long it took to simulate would seem like an instant to us. Our conciousnesses are also simulated, which means we always percieve the new frames as fast as we are simulated.
The simulator could even break down and resume without us noticing. It also doesnt't have to be fast enough to simulate a second per second. Imagine a simulator actually running for (more) billions of years. It seems silly but possible.
Yes, time isn't a limiting factor, but error free, coherent processing is.
It could get so long that it becomes impossible for that much information to be processed without a certain number of errors and then the simulation would start breaking down.
The bigger it is, the more information it has and the longer it takes for the next quanta of time in-simulation, the most the risk of error increases.
Absolutely proprietary.
It works, so it must be Foss. Maybe that quantum thing is proprietary drivers?
Sounds like we can fuzz that for some serious vulnerabilities.
The simulator is OSS
The kernel is proprietary and written so long ago the original coders and maintainers have long since died off
Did they write it in COBOL?
It was written BY the Lords of COBOL!
I have no idea. It's already compiled so it's pure state and runs on any platform. It would be a monumental project to reverse engineer the kernel at this point.
Probably software with only one user who has access to the source code, i.e. trivially FOSS but not publicly available.
One day it will be good enough to let others see.
Gonna be fucking silly here: I think the whole program is essentially self writing as it produces sentient, sapient beings, ergo, the concepts of Open and Closed Source breaks down completely.
Harambe-mushroom-trip.exe
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/physics/articles/10.3389/fphy.2025.1561873/full
For whoever is running the simulation, concepts like FOSS or proprietary do not even apply.
Technically proprietary software, but that's only because the hardware is unique. It might be free, but I can't see the source or install it on other universes.
Absolutely suspicious.
FOSS for sure. If it were proprietary we'd be seeing substantially more guardrails, and new releases would be scheduled more predictably with way less of an impact; but occasionally everything would stop working for like 72 hours... I've not seen EVERYTHING stop working for 72 hours in my lifetime.
Depends. If some higher dimensional beings are running the simulation, neither. Its government software.
Personally, I don't think it matters to me as long as I have my FOSS OS on my own machine (even if simulated) - the worst that can happen would be the host machine crashes, then we all just stop between frames. We'd stop existing in plank time.
Would that not give as a meaning of life though? It's almost like the Matrix movies, a trapped society on a simulation? That would be cool in my opinion.
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Have you read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? :3
Have you read the Kama Sutra? :3
I actually need to XD
The simulation is run through an eldritch pigeon. The World Wars and Great Depressions are just when it pecks at a picture.