Tesla Robotaxi Drops Off Passengers in Middle of Intersection… Handpicked Riders Say the “Performance Was Great”

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We’re getting the first videos of “select guests” getting access to Tesla’s Robotaxi service in Austin, and the level of polish leaves something to be desired.

For instance, one gaggle of Tesla influencers was dropped off directly in an intersection, leading to these wooly screenshots.

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The Tesla safety operators appear to always have their thumb on the “Open Door” button of their door, which is sort of weird to see. It’s like every safety operator is getting ready to say the Irish goodbye to their passengers at any given moment.

Turns out, Full Self Driving disengages if you open the door. So that is probably being used as a janky, factory-standard kill switch for the autonomous driving system that causes the vehicle to come to controlled stop.

Wow thats.

oh right, THAT.

I hope you like wherever it stops you, because, like, there's nobody in the driver's seat to fix it if the software fucks it up and parks you in the center of a highspeed road or on train tracks or whatever.



Not so. The Tesla safety operators appear to always have their thumb on the “Open Door” button of their door, which is sort of weird to see. It’s like every safety operator is getting ready to say the Irish goodbye to their passengers at any given moment.

Turns out, Full Self Driving disengages if you open the door. So that is probably being used as a janky, factory-standard kill switch for the autonomous driving system that causes the vehicle to come to controlled stop.

There is absolutely nothing stopping the human employee from sitting behind the wheel except optics...

Like, if there's three passengers, does the employee keep shotgun?

Does a passenger get the driver's seat? Or do they all have to sit in the backseat so people can see it's driving itself?

Is the plan for highspeed situations really just opening a fucking door at speed?

The level of stupidity is, as always, fascinating...

A passenger in the drivers seat could easily kill everyone by bumping the steer wheel (and reverting control back to... themself!) or by resting their foot inadvertently on the pedals.

You're right, it's purely optics, a stock pump play. The system would be safer with the Tesla employee behind the wheel, but these techbro influencer videos would be less impressive that way.

Nothing instills investors with confidence more than a nervous employee with a death grip on the door handle button.




These guys should try the existing Waymo service in Austin to get an idea of what an actually good ‘robotaxi’ is before tying this junk.


influencer

Whenever you see this word replace it with "sales people".

They’re enthusiasts, and so the initial wave of press from the Robotaxi release will be gushingly positive as Tesla sales people enthusiastically record the experience

can't disagree with any of that



Tesler delivering poor performance on an extremely delayed rollout: 📉

Tesler’s clearly manipulated stock price: 📈


Tesla's Full Self Driving feature is definitely not "Full Self Driving". At best, it is useful for freeing up a driver's attention for other things. At worst, it tricks people into thinking that the car is driving by itself when it cannot.

Similar to how if you use cruise control, you don't have to pay as much attention to speed, and you can use that attention to look at the road and other cars. Staying in a lane and following cars and even turning a corner are all things that free up the driver's attention so that the driver can pay more attention to the road and other drivers.

So, it's a useful tool for experienced and attentive drivers, but it is not "Full Self Driving", and it obviously lacks polish.

Plus, a lot of the completely necessary features for a robot taxi are completely missing, like keeping passengers from accidentally disengaging FSD. Taxis are used to transport drunk people. Drunk people will press all sorts of buttons and do things like touch a steering wheel that is moving by itself.

Musk is completely shameless. Always doing these cash grabs by promising things that are impossible, and then doing an alternative half-assed version. It's really weird. You'd think at some point that a grifter that managed to become the richest person in the world would stop doing the most obvious grifts ever.

So far the grift has always worked though...so why would he stop?

It's not his fault if some people are just falling for that BS time and time again. Unless consumers and stock holders stop him, he's gonna do the thing he does best (drugs and being a shit human being not withstanding) - grifting.

It worked for Enron! Until it didn't.




And there it is, the correct term for what this is...

Performance


leading to these wooly screenshots

*screen*shots

Have we come full circle?


So nobody died yet? Okay, cool.


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I wonder how long the facade will hold. They can't restrict the service to pro-Tesla influencers forever and the safety guys will have to go eventually. How long before weird or dangerous incidents start to happen? Days, weeks? It won't take months, of that I am certain.

How long before weird or dangerous incidents start to happen?

Well...

one gaggle of Tesla influencers was dropped off directly in an intersection


Watching the video that's still pretty tame. Not good, but nothing to make the news either. I expect much worse.


I'd only it had dropped them off a cliff.



My over/under to a major crash from when they remove safety operator from front seat? Under 14 days.

Yeah, sounds about right.



I imagine it'll last until the next major US holiday, it won't be able to deal with heavy traffic.



Had to zoom in to convince myself that thing didn't get the crap keyed out of it


They look different than the concept model.

It’s not the cybecab, just normal Tesla with fsd

Confusing! Even the same font used.

So it's an idea from... 2019.



They’re starting with existing vehicles and safety drivers. I don’t believe the robotics are coming off the lines yet





A 'gaggle of Tesla influencers' sounds like the worst kind of people to meet.

'Uncritical paid schill' seems more appropriate.

Surely the collective noun for Tesla influencers isn't gaggle, cult maybe or perhaps harim.

Gaggle makes them sound cute.




Are these cheaper or is it just Uber etc trying to maximise their profits by cutting out the salary bit?

They are currently dirt cheap, because Tesla isn't looking to profit (this is a PR stunt and stock pumping excercise for now).

The rides cost $4.20. Haaah, that joke will never get old, Elon :|

And yes, the reason that it impacts the stock price so radically, is that labor is a huge portion of professional driving expense. If you can make every professional driver unemployed by automating their job, you can make a small handful of people very, very rich.

The rides cost $4.20

Goddammit that dude is a tiresome fuckwit.



This has always been Uber's goal, it's why they've shovelled literally billions into self-driving research.

and why they treat their drivers like subhuman robots already.




The source is a fake website with the only articles being about criticizing Tesla. I am not a fan of Tesla or Musk, to say the least, but this is no better than X’s propaganda…

Aw jeez, did you copy/paste this message onto every board where this story got posted? XD

Also... wait, I recognize your name. You're a Mod on the SpaceX board, aren't you? I thought you said you weren't a fan of Musk?


Watch the videos, believe your own eyes instead of billionaire propaganda.



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